Blake, oh, I'm glad you're here. You're right. I couldn't remember what names or the place (you'll be old one day, too!) but we probably both read that right here.
You're right because I remember wondering why the kid didn't mark it "Cheech" and "Chong" lol
What the heck is it with these Asian slurs that last couple weeks. Kinda makes you wonder if the media is in some way manipulating the news, doesn't it?
If there's any fallout from this it should land squarely on the shoulders of the punk who pulled this "prank". Of course it won't,by the time the sharks (lawyers) get involved everyone but the guilty party will be sued.
Papa would look pretty stupid if the employee was just trying to get her attention....... I would just tell Papa I thought she had hott sexy eyes and wanted to get her number....... lol .............. how stupid for the world to even be involved......
I did'nt say she should sue. Take a look anywhere in the news. Law suits are the get rich quick scheme. Nobody wants to work for their money anymore. Sad but true!
No, not all kids. Only ones raised in homes where racism is prevalent and acceptable. We live in a rural area and I get so sick of hearing parents say "I am NOT racist but I would never let my daughter date a black boy" or " I am not racist but I don't believe in race-mixing because it is hard on the kids" I want to scream "YOU are the problem! YOU are racist!"
To Imatthebeach...........The media is manipulating the news? It's called reporting. Where do you get your crazy ideas? Don't we have enough crap going on without you making sh^t up?
Another example of PC BS run amok. If she is offended by this, how in the world does she survive in NYC? What a shame someone has to lose their job in this economy over something stupid like this. There was a time when an apology would do or at worse a verbal warning from the employer not to ever do it again.
I see nothing wrong with this shorthand use to keep your customers straight.
Let's see...The homie wanted pepperoni, and Mao Tse Tung gets the Sicilian style. Chubby wants sausage and onions, while the gangsta gets olives and ham.
The raghead wants goat cheeze, and Marilyn Monroe wants just plain cheese with a thin crust. All part of customer service.
I see nothing wrong with this shorthand use to keep your customers straight.
Let's see...The homie wanted pepperoni, and Mao Tse Tung gets the Sicilian style. Chubby wants sausage and onions, while the gangsta gets olives and ham.
The raghead wants goat cheeze, and Marilyn Monroe wants just plain cheese with a thin crust. All part of customer service.
That would go over like a fart in church. "The jew wants this, the honkey that, and give the fat broad a diet coke". Don't think ye would be in business long, or alive, for that matter. (I'd give gangtsa whatever he wants, seeeee?)
That kid couldn't help it that "lady chinky eyes" was the easiest, shortest, and most descriptive way to describe that person without knowing their name.
Ok it is time restaurants need to change their comment section on their receipt to be internal not printed out. Common sense woul tell you hat is not the way to do business. Probably this person heard about the Chic filet episode and a lot of them try to one up others. So in effect you are letting a possible disgrutled employee display their beef on a customers receipt. Stupid if you ask me.
Considering that half the people posting and seeing this as no big deal - are probably posting from a work computer....what do you expect....little angels...lol.
We live in a rural area and I get so sick of hearing parents say "I am NOT racist but I would never let my daughter date a black boy" or " I am not racist but I don't believe in race-mixing because it is hard on the kids" I want to scream "YOU are the problem! YOU are racist!"
Totally true. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Anyone who has to qualify whatever they are saying with, "I'm not a racist, but..." is, indeed, a racist.
i wouldnt have even fired the kid for that. I would have used it as a teachable moment. yes it was stupid, he probably cost his company millions of dollars and tons of headaches. but we have a responsibility to help other people grow and this kid needs a good smack in the head.
when i was a kid my father had an accountant that made an error that cost him close to a 100,000 dollars. i couldnt believe he didnt fire the lady. and he told me son, it was a mistake i have already lost the money but do you think she is going to make a mistake like that again. she went on to be a loyal and good employee for years.
mozzie-600 @ #190.1: "I think the word you want to use is 'unacceptable'. 'Unexceptable' is not a word. Maybe you should be in school at this time of day."
Actually, moz, technically, there IS such a word. As in, some things are exceptions to a rule but some things are absolute and cannot be made exceptions. Those things, then, would be un-exceptable. (Computer dictionaries don't know everything!)
And,
drainbramage @ #190.12: "… (there is no Papa) …"
There IS a Papa. His name is John Schnatter. He grew up in Jeffersonville, IN (Just across the river from his current home in Louisville, KY.) He started his pizza business in the back of a bar, which used to be a small restaurant and had an unused oven in a back also unused room. And, while Schnatter had no children when he first started his enterprise (he was still in college), he is, indeed, a papa now. (He is a lot of other things, too, but I won't get into that here. Suffice to say, he does not need some adolescent in New York writing ignorant, unthinking notes on a receipt to make him look stupid. He's quite adept at that all on his own.)
And Joseph E Parent: That rant on the homie, Mao, and Marilyn is a riot. I can see it playing well on SNL or Comedy Central. Not so much in the real world, tho.
Oh, yeh. And the guy you see in the PJ commercials? That's the chief asterisk, himself! Yeah. There really is a Papa.
I worked at Papa John's in '02 and whenever a cashier took an order on the phone OR in person, they asked the customer's name. Problem avoided. What's so hard about that? Duh.
Anyone who has to qualify whatever they are saying with, "I'm not a racist, but..." is, indeed, a racist.
I've heard it said that EVERYBODY should start their sentences with that, potential racist comment or not, until it becomes so annoying that racism is no longer even an issue.
"I'm not a racist, but can I get these copies made?" "I'm not a racist, but I'd like a number three, hold the mustard, and a latte." "I'm not a racist, but go clean your room!"
I actually feel sorry for Papa John's. Their pizza sucks but now the company is going to have to cough up an astronomical amount of cash just because some minimum wage loser decided to be a smartass.
SoSickoftheGOP: I agree with you on the GOP but have relatively lately come to the conclusion it matters very little how we vote; it's the same old, same old.
Here's a suggestion for you: open your mind, research who/what corporations own all the various media outlets and come to a logical conclusion.
Leave a message on my accounts page when you do, okay? I can't post links here and don't have the time, anyway.
This country has gone to hell, First we have men and women that have no balls to tell whoever is harassing them at work to F'off or the next time, I tell the boss I want him fired on sexual harassment since it is a all encompassing term which includes hearing a dirty joke, or bad prank.
Then we have this wonderful thing called oh you called me a racial slur, all the while we have no issues calling people fat ass when they are over weight.
What a crock of sh*t people are. If you don't have the balls to confront those that offend them, but instead resort to this stupid thing called tweeting, or you tubing, go find a hole and bury yourself in it. Your just as much a piece of sh*t as the one who is offending you, which makes you just as much a disgrace to the human race as a whole, as in a**hole.
If you can't handle something as small as this, a word, you need to bury yourself in a hole.
As more and more of this crap plays out, it's proof that we as a country are truly pathetic, and deserve our fate. Maybe the next regime will take all the rights away and the first person who bitches and complains that they were caused pain and discomfort on their receipt will be summarily put to death on the spot.
People if you don't like it, make you stand at the moment it happens otherwise keep your mouth shut, and your pathetic pictures where they should be in the garbage bin.
We have turned our country into pussies, and lawyer calling pukes, with $$$ on the mind in hopes of grabbing a lottery moment. When will there be enough, is enough.
A person lost their job over this, because miss, or mr. cheech or ching chong, couldn't stick up for her or himself, and if they had it would have been nipped in the bud.
If people would remember that the customer has more power than the person providing the service, just as long as it stay on those lines. If the customer is dissatisfied with what they receive or how they are treated, you either speak up or forever tuck your tail between your legs, but don't go acting all I'll go get that pri*k or bit*h , I'll tweet it, or you tube it, because if you do, and this guy or gal finds out where you live, you most likely will get your a** tossed in the dumpster, or worse dead, depending on his or her temper, and don't think it won't happen, especially in New York, it's a big city, and lots of place to dump a body.
If more people did more bitching the minute it happened there'd be less tweeting, and it would be corrected much sooner than later.
A bit of advise for those that do this tweeting sh*t, put the phone down, and grab those man ball's, and this goes for you whiny women, you too grab them as well and stick up for yourself, or keep or F'n mouth shut.
I honestly dont think the "company" owed an apology. Firing the employee was enough. Probably was some 16 year old kid anyway, people need to grow a pair.
The "big deal" is that he did not do this on the street or in a playground or in a school or movie theater. That would have been rudely racist enough. He did it during the course of his employment as the representative of a company that put him to work, pays him for his efforts and expects loyalty and concern for corporate image...at the minimum. That company has hundreds of millions of dollars invested in a positive public image and positive brand recognition and some young A-hole with a bad attitude or an even worse sense of humor sets the company back a whole bunch in the Asian community. Any one who can defend what this jerk did in the context in which he did it apparently has no respect for corporate investment, image, job creation and, ultimately, how racially-based rudeness impacts negatively on those things in the form of lost business. If I were the manager of that store or the president of the company, this woman would be receiving free orders for a year as an apology, and this kid had better not use the company as a reference for future employment - at least not without a super-convincing apology to the woman and to the company. Plus, if this woman were my wife, my sister, my mother, my daughter or my girlfriend, this would not end here.
The good thing about slurs like this one is that you only remember them for about an hour or so...
I have friends who are fat, and laugh at fat jokes. I have friends who are bald, and laugh at bald jokes. I have friends who are gay, and laugh at gay jokes.
This is NOT national News - and absolutely no one was harmed. The fact that every time you you look at a paystub and see in black and white that you have been raped by Social Security... now THAT's news.
Inappropriate for certain and he should have been dismissed.
Wow everybody is always looking for a way to start a lawsuit. THe lady got an apology and the employee was dismissed. She does'nt deserve monetarty damages. Did it occurr to anyone that the employee probably did'nt ask the customers name to put on the reciept like should of been done and ended up putting that description on the receipt so she/he would remember which customer the order went to. Everyone wants to think everybody is out to slur people when we all use descriptions when we can't remember somebodys name. Bet the woman has used a slur a time or two in her life as well. Probably when she saw the receipt!! Get over it!
drainbramage... I agree..... and the rest are posting from their home computers or phones, so they, (like me) don't give a rats fat a-double what the PC crowd thinks. Back in the day, the manager would have told the customer he was sorry if it offended her, and here is a coupon for a free meal... then patted the kid on the shoulder as he told him (in a voice loud enough for the customer to hear) he shouldn't do that again, winking at him with a hidden eye. The kid would've gotten the message, as would the customer... end of story. If that doesn't satisfy the customer... TO HELL WITH HER
Instead of putting down names why not go back to the number system like they use to have. Then the customer has show thier reciept to get thier product or food.
Call me jaded or cynical or just down-right distrusting of anything I see in the news anymore but a little red flag went up for me on this, like all the other too-stupid to do things I see in the news. If this honestly happened, then the firing of the employee and apology with a free pizza should suffice. However, if a lawsuit is filed, please check to see if the order taker and the customer know each other and/or can be traced to each other someway. I feel there is too much gaming of the system going on today and when something is this wrong, look for the angle. Robert S.
My first thought reading this article was wouldn't it be just ironic if that is the name the person gave knowing that some minion would type it on the ticket so she could post it around and try to get some free stuff? Unless the security tapes record sound too (I'm sure some of them do but I've never seen one that did) there would be no way for the employee to verify they did and the customer would just say "why would I give a name like that?".
I see nothing wrong with this shorthand use to keep your customers straight.
Let's see...The homie wanted pepperoni, and Mao Tse Tung gets the Sicilian style. Chubby wants sausage and onions, while the gangsta gets olives and ham.
The raghead wants goat cheeze, and Marilyn Monroe wants just plain cheese with a thin crust. All part of customer service.
I see nothing wrong with those statements since it doesn't mess with the current 4 favored minorities:
The big nosed Jew wants extra cheese. - not acceptable
The wet back wants extra jalapenos. - not acceptable
The jig wants chicken. - not acceptable
The terrorist wants no ham. - not acceptable
But as long as you don't disparage those favored races, all is good.
I geuss it would have been different if he would of smacked her in the head with the pizza when he gave it to her,but he didn't. To me this sounds alot like a bunch of 5th graders on the playground. GROW UP people, they are just words nothing more!
Its one thing if the person writing it is the only one seeing it(your brain still being able to think what you want) but when you hand out comments like that to the people, you might not be physically hurting them but its almost like a spit in the face. Since you are working for a company I'm sure they don't support spitting on thier customers. You still have freedom of speech whenever you want and to also reap the consequences of it.
Oh wow, doesn't this ignorant pizza pusher realize that in our left wing dominated, politically correct society, it is only permissable to make fun of conservative Christians? I say he deserves the death penalty for this hideous crime!
Ill also tell you the truth about racism but its beyond half the people here. Its not just the deragotory words and hate that make up racism but the labels you proudly put on yourself that is the start of all racism and hate against our own brothers and sisters. First and foremost you are a human and a human only every other label you have been led to believe you are is a farce. made up make believe meant to keep you in a group that is different from others even though you are exactly the same. Hence comes the term "wake up"
Maybe it also could've been the employee asked her name, could'nt understand her and so as not to have to repeatedly ask the employee just wrote that in the name section. Different races call each other racists names and thats prefectly fine and acceptable. EX: balck people calling each other @!$%#. Thats not racist, but let a white, hispanic, asia etc.. call a black person that and all hell breaks loose. I'm so tired of hearing the slavery complaint. People ought to look up history. Blacks in Africa were selling each other into slavery long before Americans took up the practice. And yes,this is fact. Look it up.
I used to work for Papa Johns when I was in college. Sometimes when you ask for a name, they just ignore you. Or they don't speak English very well, so you don't know what they said. Or they're plain out rude to you. At least once a day we'd put "Guy" or "Short hair" since the person wouldn't give up their name.
That being said, this employee either did it out of anger or stupidity, since there's a box you can put such comments without the customer seeing it on a receipt.
I don't think its too unreasonable that he lost his job over this. It sends a firmer message to someone that they can't get away with unprofessional attitudes, even at a minimum wage job. But I would have been okay with him keeping the job too.
First of all, I believe half of what I see and nothing of what I hear. The so-called media just loves to jump on stories like this without bothering with the facts.
Then the people involved get on twitter, or whatever stupid means they use, and tell the whole world their side of the story. I guess they want their "15 minutes of fame".
Back when I was a kid, if someone called you a name, you punched them out. End of story. They didn't have to make a public apology and go to "sensitivity training."
That kid couldn't help it that "lady chinky eyes" was the easiest, shortest, and most descriptive way to describe that person without knowing their name
Why not just try "ma'am, or miss, I didn't get your name". The problem isn't whether the employee KNEW the name or not. It is whether the employee has any MANNERS or respect for others or not. I hate to admit it, but I agree with Blake up there. The kids are BRATS these days. They are taught that they are the only thing that matters and they act that way. I don't think it's just an oriental problem. I think that's all we're hearing, but I bet there are other nationalities getting the same treatment, and like myself, may not ever even read the receipt.
Personally, I hope all these brat-making parents get a good eye-opening when their kids grow up and spit on them. The generations to come are going to get worse and worse, as these "brats" reproduce.
i need to ask this. what is racist about "lady chink eyes". it doesnt even make sense using the words "chink" and "eyes" together. the proper racial slur would be "lady slant eyes". then you would be talking about a racial feature. even using the word "lady" makes it pretty funny, even absurb have you. if he were to just use the word "chink" then that could be construed as racist but hey white folks get called all kinds racial names but no one cares bout that right.
while the company should have reprimanded or fired the employee, they have no reason to offer an apology besides C.Y.A. the "lady chink eyes" deserves no compensation due to no loss on her part. if we could all sue over words, well hell i think we do that already. so all hope is lost because no one has any "balls" anymore.
So it's just a bunch of words, and everybody should just lighten up..... Ok, when a blond, blue-eyed person orders something, maybe the receipt should show that "Mr. Nazi" or "Hitler Youth" or "Waffen SS" ordered the food.
Hey, it's just a bunch of words, you blond blue-eyed folks really need to just lighten up.............
The first post on this thread states "totally unacceptable"! The company agreed. So how did the media get hold of this tantalizing, squabble driving, racially charged headline? Just lucky, I guess.
Although the comment was unacceptable, it would seem that there is some lack of employee training involved here. Perhaps the kid (was it a "kid"?) had heard the manager make racial slurs and assumed this would be considered funny. I would have given the employee a stern warning and then run the entire crew at that particular Papa's through a "what not to say" and "unacceptable behavior" training session.
I've heard it said that EVERYBODY should start their sentences with (I'm not a racist, but), ... until it becomes so annoying that racism is no longer even an issue.
Anyone saying THAT probably just wants the accusation of being a 'racist' to come to an end, more than likely because they hear it a lot.
Bigotry is not nearly as easy to ignore for the targets.
KennethC was a little ranty, but I have to agree with him. We have become obnoxiously petty, thin skinned, and egocentric in the USSA today. Yet we have totally lost perspective on what matters.
I have a man in my neighborhood who has appointed himself as the neighborhood dog turd policeman. He will self righteously accost anyone who dares allow their animal to defecate within the city easement (that's not illegal in my city ...... yet). He really doesn't care if he alienates them, as long as he gets to pound them over the head with his verbal dog turd hammer. But he hasn't written a single letter to his congressman protesting the RAPE of his children's future by a 15 TRILLION dollar federal debt amassed by the corrupt professional politicians on BOTH sides of the fence. Nope, his sights are dutifully affixed upon a dog turd (I wonder if he's ever heard the adage "$hit happens"?). Nor does it seem to strike his limited cognition that when the economy collapses (which is inevitable at this point), neighbors could easily be all that stands between life and death. Is he too stupid to see it?too afraid to face it? too cowardly to speak to it? too selfish to give a damn as long as he has a rib eye, a porn site, and a city council to biotch at today(to be a legend in his own mind?)?
The lkand of the free and the home of the brave has become the land of the indoctrinated and the land of the coddled. We're a whole country full of politically correct dog turd cops here. It's absolutely sickening to me. You all deserve the tyranny that you're getting.
I feel so deprived and left out. I've been on the look out for an opportunity to be offended for days. No luck. How come the minorities get all of the chances to be indignant and make money because someone says something that they can be offended by?
I am a white, christian male, who's ancestors came from a country north of England. Please, someone call me a cracker, a honky, a mick, a paddy. I don't want to miss out. I need something to b#@&h about.
These acts are premeditatedly raacist in nature imo. If this employee could not remember or spell the customer's name then he could have asked her to repeat her name or to spell her name period.
It is not the first time this sort of behaviour has occurred. Last year an employee or two at another store - it may have been Walmart- made racist comments over the sound system for all to hear.
But what are we to expect when this sort of nastiness is demonstrated even more so these days by supposedly educated people like ministers/polititians in public places, whether in stump speeches on the campaign trail, to in polititical debates, or in the pulpit, in print and other media like in e-mails and Twitter?
Then when called on it these folks' excuse is always the same thing...that it was a joke or their utterance was taken out of context or mis-interpreted. If it was supposed to be funny and not the person or persons being racially motivated and offensive...why is it that no one with a modicum of self respect, proper manners or sensitivity is laughing?
It is even done on these message boards. If it is not some ignorant twat dissing the President of the USA and Mrs Obama and their children with the name calling, birtherism etc, it is presidential candidates making negative blanket statements about a whole group of people -usually about minorities or the poor or folks of a lower socio-economic status. See Gingrigh, Bachmann, Paul, Cain etc.
To those who have tried to blame the victim or to try to pretend/say that what occurred was funny or suggest that the employee was young or whatev thus the behaviour should be excused because the person did not know better is only encouraging this demonstration of blatant insensitivity and intolerance imo.
As long as we keep excusing this sort of behaviour because of the person's youth then we are as guilt of these sort of insensitive/racist acts as the 'youth' who committed the offense.
As long as we keep excusing or tolerating this sort of behaviour because the person may be a political candidate on the stump/debate etc 'in the heat if battle' so to speak, then we are as guilty of racial insensitivity or prejudice as the person or persons who expressed or displayed this nastiness.
By the way the world is watching how we deal or treat each other, and will also show us the same sort of disrespect and insensitivity as we show to each other.
It seems that we in the USA have this unerring ability to show our 'exceptionalism' as exceptionally ignorant, insensitive, racist, prejudiced, intolerant bores....don't we.....
1.27 Thewordsmith - ...technically, there IS such a word [as unexceptable]. As in, some things are exceptions to a rule but some things are absolute and cannot be made exceptions. Those things, then, would be un-exceptable. (Computer dictionaries don't know everything!)
I thought about that, but I respectfully disagree. Being a wordsmith as well, I posit that the word is 'unexcepTIONable' and not 'unexceptable'. My reference (and I don't use a computer dictionary) is Webster's Third New International.
Di DI Read it again, very slowly, then think a bit about our society as a whole, it's not a far fetch rant I have woven above, and if you can't get that read D_Loominator, he understood what I was saying.
We need to all open our eye's to the big picture, what people forget sticks and stones, It was a word, " Chinky!"
WHO GIVES A $HIT, grow up, there are far more pressing things going on in the universe than this pussy of a person who couldn't stick up for him or herself by telling the manager that she or he should teach their employees how to deal with the public, and also she should have embarrassed the employee by over toning her voice in disapproval of what he or she did.
If that took place there would be less and less lawsuits taking place, and less whiny people in this country, this is what happens when we put POLITICAL CORRECTNESS ahead of COMMON SENSE. WHAT YOU GET IS STUPIDITY, and hence yes, the current country we live in. If you can't stick up for yourself, and all you do is do this stupid a$$ tweet bull$hit well you know what, one day it's going to nip all of you that just don't get that, and it's going to be a rough ride for you when it does.
Open yours eye's people " Chinky" Jesus Christ , with children starving in the world, and Iran acting like idiots, and the world economy in the $hitter, all of you are all caught up on a fu*ken word like "chinky". You all need a life change, maybe we need a nuclear war, or a biological disaster or something devastating, then maybe none of you would be so caught up on, "Political correct bull$hit as this.
What should happen is this person that couldn't handle " CHINKY" , should have his or her a$$ summarily kicked, just for being a pussy for not taking charge of the situation there and then.
Like I said above, Nothing in this country but, pussies, and lawyer calling pukes, with $$$ on the mind in hopes of grabbing a lottery moment.
We all deserve a hell on earth, we are so caught up in ourselves we never see the bigger picture.
"So it's just a bunch of words, and everybody should just lighten up..... Ok, when a blond, blue-eyed person orders something, maybe the receipt should show that "Mr. Nazi" or "Hitler Youth" or "Waffen SS" ordered the food.
Hey, it's just a bunch of words, you blond blue-eyed folks really need to just lighten up............."
I was ready to blow until I kept reading and picked up on your sarcasm! I agree --- just words no big deal. Like in the '30s when some guy named Adolf was ranting in local pubs and speaking of a "master race" or something like that?? Nothing came of those words so why worry?
Kenneth,... @ #1.75..... the saying 'stick and stones may break my bones' should end with 'but words last forever in one's memory.
Broken bones heal, while a broken spirit or a broken self-esteem does not heal as easily and in some cases may never heal. Hurt feelings come back to haunt people no matter what folks may try to state or believe.
We communicate with each other with words and although the next person using a specific word -probably in all innocence - can trigger a negative reaction in the person or persons who were subjected to this insensitivity and ignorance or who were poorly treated under even different circumstance at an earlier time and place.
Oh one other thing.... racism comes about when we use a negative feeling/views or prejudice, dislike and intolerance that we may have against one or two persons of another racial group and then use those feelings, views and intolerance to bash, beatup on, slam, slander, accuse, diminish, disrespect, negatively paint/describe and deny the worth/human-ness of allllll persons/ people of that racial group.
By the way not everyone is into confrontation as you and some of your ilk are, especially in this day and age of concealed carry and trigger tempers.
Perhaps these minorities know that if they should address the matter then, there is the distinct liklihood of the matter escalating and as things often goes, the minority is the one who is often times not going to be believed and could /will be either locked up (while they try to prove their citizenship/legal status) for disturbing the peace etc.... or may/could even be killed.
So it is better to quietly and freely walk away and live to fight another day...loudly... via social media imo. LOL
BZe1 - you are obviously not as sensitive as you would have us think. Otherwise, you wouldn't be YELLING AT EVERYBODY ON THIS BOARD! So typical of the politically correct crowd. Filled with self serving self righteous indignation ..... and hypocrisy.
lmao poor woman got called a bad word.Its just horrible.I bet the pain and suffering for this is in the millions,i dont know how she is able to live day to day in such humiliation.
It's ashame really,that people get so upset of being called a name.Why should anyone care if people want to show their ignorance by throwing out stupid "ethinic" slurs,if anything you can walk away smiling knowing you just a hair up the ladder of evolution than they are.
And since the can of worms is already open,that whole ignorace thing goes double for people who use the one that is somehow only insulting if someone with lighter skins says it.
Really grow the hell up people,how can you expect the world to respect us when we get mad over a little kindergarden wordplay.
Anyone finding this unexpectable........really,wtf did that mean anyways,and every damn one of us has said something much worse about someone,so get off it already.I know in process of reading this and the comments,i prolly made a few peoples dead relatives roll over in their graves.Its embaressing as a culture we still give a shyte about "bad words" and "name calling"
also spelling classes should be manditory because i am to lazy to arse withe spell check :>
This I unfortunately have to agree with. In case you have missed the last 20 years, our rights as workers are gone. While I agree it was poor taste to use the phase, it was done from 1 employee, not a Corporate Policy. Even backwooded Hillbillies have a right to express their opinions, (Yes, Hillbillies can be found in any city, town or environment, even NYC).
Why should the employee be fired? He was amusing himself in a nonharmful way, by making his boring job a little more fun. If all you anal-retentive people could shove a lump of coal up your butts, we'd have an abundant supply of Diamonds. I am more surprised that the Federal Government hasn't stepped in and tried and convicted him of a "Hate Crime".
I would be pissed if someone did that on my receipt, but what about the employees right to Free Speech? After the anger passes, I am sure I would find it humorous if mine said "Big Fat @$$". I see a lot of people using words that are offensive, but it never seems to be "Offensive" unless it is uttered from "Whitey".
you got that right....... racism is completely the other way now.... jesse jackson running around all over the country threatening businesses, al sharpton running around race baiting..... its pitiful the way they act now... even the president is getting to be the same way with class warfare..... im sick of them all.
Trust2112 get real and read the bill of right before typing some crap next time....Free speech is right given to us that allows you the freedom to express your religious and political beliefs with out the possibility of persecution or search and seizure by the government....It in no way says you can go around throwing racial slurs or bigotry and it sure wasn't written to support such things...quite the opposite
I understand what you are saying but at this time the employee was on Papa John's time and was being paid to do their job. Remember that speech you are always given when you are first hired;"You are now a representative of this company. what you say or do will be reflection upon the company." This is why Papa John had to fire the employee because they were representing Papa John's, at the time, and not themselves, since they were working. Think of it how would you like it if you walked into a predominately minority restaurant and you received a receipt that said whitey, cracker, or even something more insultive and from reading the article she didn't complain to Papa John's, she was tweeting to friends what happen and they told friends, so on and so forth, eventually Papa John's found out. From what I understand they are still trying to get ahold of her.
@ killer - Miss Black America, negro college fund and list goes on and on.....while there may have been an (in)appropriate time for these things, when will they end?
How exactly was his freedom of speech rights violated? The government has done nothing to him, he has the right to scribble lady chinky eyes on any scrap of paper he wishes. However, Papa Johns certainly does not have to employ him while he does so.
and killert, " its pitiful the way they act now... even the president is getting to be the same way with class warfare..... im sick of them all." wow man, another racist comment/phrase! but I'm sure you're "just amusing yourself"! what an a$s!!!
Your right, i am sick and tired of the race baiters, sick of the president trying to stir up trouble in the black community by painting white workers as the enemy of this country, including people that have money. We are the enemy of obama and the democrat party and they show it every day. Your damn right im sick and tired of all this crap..... how would they like it if we had the KKK running around the country race baiting all the time?
Killerteam you do not have the right to degrade someone, especially if you are working for a company. My previous comment was in relation of the Trust2112's statement that was previous to his one for Killerteam. Killerteam learn to be tolerant you will find the world a pretty good place out there if you try. and excuse there was a time KKK was killing and spweing their hatred all over the south and trying to bring it in the north. People learned that it was wrong to degrade, beat and even kill someone because they weren't like you. time to grow up Killerteam and face the real world.
I respecfully disagree with you on a few points. The first point is that he was amusing himself in a non-harmful way. It was harmful to his employer. If the customer was insulted enough to post her receipt online its more than likely that she will hold some level of resentment to the store/franchise thus harming their business. Secondly I don't believe that the right of free speech extends to an employee saying whatever it is that he pleases as a representative of his employer. His "free speech" was uttered towrds a customer of his employer on a receipt of his employter. As a job creator......, err small business owner myself I would have real issues if my employee's insulted my customers. I know how hard I work to developa and maintain a customer base. I certinly don't need an employe using bad judgment and offending my customers.
Lastly while I am writing this I don't recall any mention of the employee being white, black, latino or other.
then put a leash on jesse and al... I dont have the White Persons college fund, nor do we have a White Miss America, nor do we have the White Entertainment Network, it gets a little old after a while ya know..... While its not cool to call someone "chinky eyes", some people just get a free pass now days. And like i said, if it was a black person writing that on the reciept, he would not be fired, because you know darn well that hell would be raised.
Oh, someone mentioned the president while commenting on racism. Well, guess it's appropriate since Mr. Obama demands to be recognized as an African-American (a.k.a. black) when in reality he is multi-racial and cannot legally be considered as a full fledged member of the black community. But, being the racist he is he chooses instead to ignore the FACT he is half white.
If you would actually read the NDAA, you would see that none of the provisions I think you are talking about apply to American citizens, legal aliens or anyone actually arrested in the United States. If you have actually read the NDAA , then it must be the Bill of Rights or the Constitution that you have not read.
heheheheheheh Cheap entertainment...............some of you are just way too uptight. Wow! @trust, the coal in the rectum coming out a diamond comment is damn funny, and sadly, so true.
Killer sees problems even when they don't exist....living in the past makes for no future.
killers loudest message is his/her hate. I guess killer has never worked where they have employee handbooks....or figures he'll just deal with it when it's his turn to be fired.
For those who put down Public jobs - don't ever apply for one if you can't restrain your self. Even as a laborer we had to watch what we said - then we would get guys who worked for private contractors - they lasted about 4 months before we fired them for being stupid.
How bout we put a leash on Rush Limbaugh, Jesse Helms, John McCain and that other douche bag Bill O'Reilly that wrote that stupid book Pinheads and Patriots (just to name a few) then we will call it even, eh?Hell African Americans have had leashes on them for the past 200+ years (need we bring up Willie lynch and his abominable teachings that have stuck to African Americans of color since???), but of course, closed minded people (not just Caucasians either I've learned) would not understand that unless they have been through it, so of course, they will run around complaining about how they are sick of something they have NEVER even experienced first hand...."sick of the race baiting"....haha, funny as hell.....
I am surprised a Harvard grad would be so ignorant as to yell racial epithets in the store.....what ?..... Oh, I thought this horrible tragedy occurred at John Hopkins, not Papa Johns.
Hmmm. maybe it was just some kid leaving a note to himself.
Live; make rude comments about women in front of your wife/girlfriend and see how long she laughs. Just saying there are many shoes to walk in before you should play the Andrew Dice Clay role.
Jersey Shore mentality strikes again...learn the hard way, if they learn at all.
Live&LetLive, thanks for stopping by from time to time to act patonizing or giggle or compliment Tyler or Sally. You truly add something to the discussion.
Now go patronize other people somewhere else. please.
brian @ #2.3: Free speech is right given to us that allows you the freedom to express your religious and political beliefs with out the possibility of persecution or search and seizure by the government....It in no way says you can go around throwing racial slurs or bigotry and it sure wasn't written to support such things...quite the opposite" [sic]
I think you may be getting your Amendments a bit scrambled – and 1 + 4 does not equal 5. Which is to say, search and seizure is covered under the fourth amendment and not the first which covers the free speech question at issue here.
And to that issue I would have to remind you, freedom of speech is not all-inclusive. I'm sure you have heard about the Supreme Court decision on the subject: Schenk vs United States (1919)
"The most stringent protection of free speech would not protect a man falsely shouting fire in a theater and causing a panic. ... The question in every case is whether the words used are used in such circumstances and are of such a nature as to create a clear and present danger that they will bring about the substantive evils that Congress has a right to prevent.“ Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr, speaking for the majority.
Now, in 1919, the justices in no way could have imagined the extent of lack of integrity, and the generally disrespectful manner in which the public now treats others with such distain, nor the extent of indignation the presumed offended assumes. Neither would they have been able to envision the glee with which those same injured parties jump at the opportunity to litigate their injuries to dollar signs, no matter how slight or unintended.
Today, using many racial epithets pejoratively is considered not only racists but, in many circumstances, catalytic and inviting conflict. Thus, they could be considered as creating "… a clear and present danger that will bring about substantive evil…" That is why using racial slurs in a mean and untenable manner is considered wrong and not protected under the First Amendment.
The inability of our lawmakers to crystal ball the future is the very reason we have so many Amendments to the constitution. Likewise, we are continually 'tweaking' those Amendments to fine tune the stone tablets by which our nation is governed. The fine line in this particular case, and the reason there is a major question as to whether or not there is a valid basis for a lawsuit (which the injured party has not suggested but which has been put forth by a number of posters here), is the user's intent. Was the word intended as a slur? Was it meant to be derogatory? Was it presented in a mean spirited way? Any potential lawsuit must be able to answer yes to these questions in order to prove intent to injure on the part of the perpetrator.
On the other hand, the dismissal of the worker for the abysmally poor choice of words might have been handled a bit less aggressively. If, for instance, this worker had never been warned of any wrong-doing in the past, firing might have been extreme. Perhaps a warning might have been more appropriate. However, in the interests of global PR, Papa John's acted in the extreme to prevent any further fallout. And, as someone previously noted, this was certainly within their rights in the interests of protecting their business. All in all, it is a rather unfortunate situation and, as too often happens in our internet giddy world, has grown far beyond its true magnitude.
In other words … Really? I don't know how I would react if someone referred to me as a "red-headed mick" but I doubt I would find any outrage in it. In high school, my best friend and I thrived on instigating shock in everyone around us. She'd shout at me and call me honky and I'd yell right back calling her n----r. We can still laugh about it and could still get away with that now but I can't imagine anyone else taking those labels with any degree of aplomb.
"Decent" Society, you see, often dictates what the government does/can/should not. Integrity cannot be legislated.
MINAMEME - I agree (as I' sure does killerteam) that KKK shouldn't be running around as they did in the past. The problem here is that the pendulum has swung the other way. We now have Ebony magazine (why not "White" magazine), NAACP (why not NAAWP?), BET (Why not White People's Network?), MLK Day (there's not a national holiday dedicated to the celebration of any white man, for being white, like MLK Day is for him being BLACK). I am unemployed (thanks to the AMAZING policies of Mr. Hussein Obama) for the FIRST time in my life. I have been turned down 5 times by employers in favor of LESS QUALIFIED (yes, LESS qualified, as told me by the interviewers) minorities because they have a quota to fill.
So don't push your racism sh*t at me. I'm too intelligent to fall for it. Unlike what the effin moron in the white house thinks.
I used to tell my friends, when we were in our 20's, 'let's go get chinese eyes'. Was I being racist? hmmm? That was 20 yrs. ago. I don't think anyone gives a crap I said that then.
just because someone might be somewhat "intelligent", doesn't mean they aren't IGNORANT.
Bigotry is still prevalent in this country. To say it doesn't have a negative or harmful effect, or shrug off seeing it by calling it playing a "race card", is downright foolish.
No successful business run by upstanding people should want to employ somebody who treats a customer in a negative manner(unless provoked).
A million or more European white christians were enslaved by muslims in North Africa from the 16th to the 18th century. Through most of the 17th century the English lost 400 sailors a year to slavers.
White children would be kidnapped from Britian shipped to America with a great number to die enroute. If not immeadiately sold when arriving some were taken further inland and sold or killed as it was expensive to feed them. This continued until the end of the civil war. A lot of whites were called "indentured servants" but in reality just slaves. Some indentured slaves were still held even after slavery ended. It said that white slaves were often treated worse than black slaves and the families were separated just the same as black families. This does'nt even touch on the white slave trade going on in 2012. Thats our SKREWD WORLD.
Immediately dismantle the Department of Education for leaving every child behind. Clearly many of these posts were written with zero comprehension of the subject. What subject? Exactly.
You may call it hate or whatever from what i say, but when does it end? Why do we have to bend the rules for blacks, as in education? Why is it racist to have them take the same tests as whites, and if they cant pass the test, we have to pass them anyway? Why do they get preferential treatment in the job place with quotas? No matter where you look they get preferential treatment in todays world, and that is unfair to everyone. Passing someone in school because they cant do it does not help a black person, but lowerers the standard for him or her. Why do we need a United Negro College Fund? Why not an American College Fund? Why do we need a Black Entertainment Network? Why not a United American Network instead? Why does Obama have to stir up the black community with his remarks about the working white people, and the evil corporations, and the evil banks? Why does obama jump to the defense of his friend when he was arrested and bash the cop that arrested him before he even knew what happened? Just a lot of arrogance and racism he learned in Rev Wrights evil church of Anti Americanism and anti White rhetoric i guess. In this day and age we dont need to single out a race or religion and go out of our way to appease them like we do the muslims now in this country. A religion that their Koran proudly states that they need to kill the infidels (thats us folks) and make no friends with Jews and Christians.... instead of appeasing these people, we need to kick their asses out of the country along with obamas favorites, the illegal aliens in this country illegally.
I have not heard such silly stupidity in all my life. Some of you state that this was not a problem, but the truth it is, but we have come to the point where racial equality is really being abused. A man in college wants to have a night watching movies made by Caucasian directors with the same race as actors and everyone screams racism, yet we have film after film by African Americana's with directors and actors and it is all OK. White people have had this racial guilt slammed down their necks until they are afraid to say anything less it be looked at with someone labeling it as racist.
The truth is, my father is English with about 1/16 native American in him, and he is considered white. My wife is full Asian, and my son then is half Asian, so is he half Asian and half white, or is he just a American. Lets go further; we have a president who is half white, his dad was primarily Arab with 1/8 African Black in him, so for political expediency the president threw his mother and grandparents (who raised him) and ran as a African American, when he should have said he was a American with the blessing of being mixed with the blood of all that makes us all American. We are the melting pot.
My child plays, he did not ever see any of his friends as white, Asian or African American until he had the administrations policy of forcing this issue down on his little six year old mind.
When are we going to stop all this nonsense. The African Americans want me to pay money in reparations to them for slavery when the facts are the biggest slave owner in the 1800s was a African American (read Robert Grooms a African American Professor). I had someone tell me that I should have to pay up, and I told him it was fine as long as he paid me back (seeing that he claimed the Egyptians were African) then the amount he owed with interest for 5,000 years far outweighed what I owed him. In the end I told him we need to all go to a day care center and watch children play together and maybe we could take a lesson from them on how to get together. They do not care about such matters, they care about their friends no matter what color they are.
So instead of dividing this nation maybe we should unite as one common people, Americans, (it is so sad that Mrs Obama never felt like a American until her husband was nominated), and instead of listening to the racist rants of Farrakhan, Reverend White, the KKK, and all the other hate groups, maybe we could come together and learn from other cultures, try their foods and enjoy their hospitality, and in the end we would find out that as much as we are different we are all the same.
So lets enjoy our different diverse ancestries and cultures but realize at the same time although we are different, we are still the same in that we are Americans. And if you do not like it, then go somewhere where they will tolerate your hatred and bigotry. And for the people that are comming here and thinking they have a right as guest of this country to teach such nonsense, maybe we should tell them they are not welcome and send them on the next plane home. I beleive in free speach, but it should be used with responsibilty, not as a excuse for stupidity.
That was my point, I'm not being racist. Just asking a question. Another example would be the movie "The Jerk", think it would make it's way through the Political Correct police? Yes, the movie is offensive, but damn it is still funny to watch. How about Mel Brooks movies? A Jew making fun of Jews, how Racist he must be.
I'm just happy as hell I don't work for a prick like Papa John. And I am quite sure the employee who was fired feels the same way. Ohh, and your pizza sucks more than Little Caesars!
If I thought for a second you where really interested in knowing the answers to the questions that you raised I'd tell you, but you're not. You're more interested in playing the "Victim Card".
I have one question for you. Have you heard of spell check? It’s funny to read something from someone trying to trash an entire classification of people, yet have the grammatical mistakes that your paragraph had. You’re a willfully ignorant person, most of not all racist people are.
killerteam, keep it to yourself, don't smear all blacks -- or Muslims [not even sure how managed to drag them into this.] You're suspended for a week for violating #5 of the Code of Honor.
I worked there for years. Corporate guidelines do not call for cheddar on any non-specialty pizza. Your local manager should be fired for giving you cheddar, a more expensive cheese, in place of mozzarella. You can talk all the garbage you want about Papa John's, but where else you going to go? Especially someone with such discerning tastes. LOL
As for this article, that slur is nothing compared to some I've seen on the receipts...
When will people STOP being so damned sensitive? It's getting ridiculous, all of the baby crying going on these days. It's like we are all having to walk on egg shells for fear of hurting someone's feelings. It's one thing to physically harm someone or their property while committing a hate crime. It's quite another thing when someone being ignorant opens their mouth (or types/writes) and utters a phrase or word others may find offensive. People need to grow up, grow a pair, and get over your small incidental selves.
Gotnorice - through all the bull on this vine, you said it perfectly. If employers and all managers of people could control what their entry level line, minimum wage employees say/do, we would have less headaches. And remember what Art Linkletter said - "Kids say the darndest things!". Expecting that the front line staff at a fast food/pizza store are going to behave like experienced, educated, and professional adults is not only naive, but downright CRAZY.
who the hell needs that kind of harassment when they go out for dinner. and i love the total imbeciles that are suggesting she should have confronted the individual. she's a "lady", she probably has more intelligence then to confront the guy and then get pounded by the kid. i know i'm giving the points to her, because the teen is the heavy favorite. but doesn't that strike as being somewhat unamerican, you know having some balls and sticking up for the person that deserves it here in this article, which is not the employee.
Let's not forget, sometimes customers can be complete a$$e$ themselves for no other reason than ego. Couple that with a kid making minimum wage and wallah.
Haven't seen one person comment on that possible side, not that there is one, just sayin...
A good talking too, a two week suspension and a formal written apology from the employee would have sufficed. Probably would have sent a better lesson to the employee who now might actually start feeling racists due to being fired. Perhaps this person has a family to support. Eveybody posting on the story of the 15 year old black girl who ranaway, got caught stealing, got picked up by ICE then deported to colombia because she gave a false name wanted her to get a 2nd chance, the family wants a lawsuit. Every poster that thought the girl should be accountable for her actions was called a racist. This employee must be white cause if the employee was any other race it would have been stated and the sentiments here would also likely be different as well.
So... lets add more regulations and more classes and more interventions and more laws to prevent this...... OR parents can teach their kids.... people can take responsibility.....Papa fired the kid, apologized and we can all move on. I have found most of their employees to be pretty good. Never a problem since they moved into the Houston Area for me at least.
OR do we want the kid flogged, hung, drawn and quartered for being stupid.....? If so, lets start with Biden and his rude remarks to the Ice Cream Shop manager(remember that?).
I think it is individual person not company. I worked for a big company in Seattle. Every year they made sure their employees took diversity class. There were 2 employees who made fun at Asian, black, not born in US thru company email for 2 years. I was one of many victims. We went to HR. Nothing was happen. Because one of them knew very high manager. Finally someone decided to go to one Asian manager. That manager acted immediately. They brough in out of town EEO personnel. It took her one week to interview all victims plus 2 racials employees. Within 2 weeks, both of them dismissed. However, a leader (a one who made all of racial comments and said she has connection with high management. She is a member of Rainier club) came back to work after one year. She acted like "see I am untouchable". Few victims decided to leave a company because they think if she was able to come back to work after one year and acted like an untouchable. They worried about their jobs. I was one of those people who left the company. This is a big company in Seattle..
if it was a black person writing on the receipt of a white person and called them a cracker, he would be promoted and given a raise. They would never ever in a million years fire a black for doing the exact same thing.... wanna put some money on it? They would have jesse jackson and al sharpton on them like a chicken on a june bug.
at least killer can make assumption+sugarcone+imagine
and its the truth
i bet u thumbs yourself up...
and what black person would use the word cracker to a whtie person? only time i heard it was talkin bout cookies, idk wtf u are dreaming about, BUT OK! haha
I'm sure they brought her back because they couldn't stand you and your colleagues broken english. I had trouble getting through your comment without pulling the corners of my eyes and yelling "Ching chong dinky dow!". Good lord! Please take time and learn proper grammar and sentence structure. Chinky eyes indeed!
Killerteam, I agree with To4ever, but I'll take it two steps further: was going to write I hope you're not a US citizen, but I hope you're not a member of the human race.
blueeyedkyboy, Well, we know where you stand. You probably are from Kentucky.
Yo, Mr. Rogers. You give Fred Rogers a bad name. Ever occur to you, genius, that English is probably a second language for Beeworker?? Think before you insult someone. Wonder how well you can speak/read/write Beeworker's language?
Funniest comment ever. Mr. Rodgers, i like your neighborhood. people need to learn to spell and speak correctly in this country. The grammar is atrocious on these boards.
Well Imatthebeach. This IS America, why should anyone have to learn any language other than English?. I can understand when a foreign person speaks in stilted language but when they write the same way they speak, That is the funniest Sh*^ i have ever seen. But to the point, english is the language of the USA, anyone coming here should learn it, not the other way around.
Dom, that would be spelled "R-O-G-E-R-S". While you're complaining about and laughing at someone's spelling/grammar, please make sure your own is absolutely accurate. It is your FIRST language, I'm assuming.
Blueeyed, you just don't get it, do you? Where do you think I got Kentucky, if not from your screen name? Point is, I have friends there, beautiful state but I wouldn't brag about it if I were you. Rather backwards in their thinking, generally, much like yourself.
Its alright to speak Ebonics in court according to our new liberal judges... every other word is muthafugga this and muthfugga that and you cant understand a word they say and that speaks as to why our education system has failed, because if you graduate from high school and cant even speak the english language properly, they should send you back where you come from.... im sorry.
Notice all the votes that imatthebeach gets for his racist comments.... hey, your the main reason that we all dont get along... and right along with you is scooter. You people are the main reason that when i travel to Chicago to visit, the area i visit is heavily black and i always carry a gun ( i am a permit holder) because of two attempted car jackings by blacks, and one attempted robbery by a black. Then the fun going to Aldis grocerystore up there and watching yall pack the groceries into your buggys with all sorts of goodies, steaks, cokes, tater chips, etc, then pay with your obamacard and go hop out in your Excalade. If i had not seen it multiple times, id have thought it a one time deal. Just how we have gotten this way is because of dumb libs that think we have to steal from hard working people like me, and give it to you welfare thugs that will never have a job, cause your just too lazy to work when you can collect from the tit of the democrat party in exchange for your votes.
Hmmm, I'm black and I've never committed any crime, I don't shop at Aldi and buy steaks and "tater" chips, I don't have an "obamacard" or an "Excalade"and I'm no "welfare thug", I don't belong to any "democratic party or "steal from hardworking people like you.
I surely hope you're not grouping all black people into your rant.
killer, your IQ is showing. Just as I told the abrasive and bitter Boris on another thread: I think enough people around here know me and my beliefs that you just might get a few comments if you start pulling the race card on me. Racist? What color am I? I'll bet even the posters that are used to seeing me around here don't know that.
Please stop back by and refer all of us to my "racist posts." You dummy, you don't know my race, age, gender or anything else. I'll bet your waist size is bigger than your IQ.
Based on your sentence structure and grammatical errors in every post, I doubt you have a job, because you sure don't have an education. You need to be concerned about your own damn self.
Your right ken, i dont have a job because i am retired.... i used my education to invest wisely and become a millionare..... i guess that means that i am an enemy of the democrat party and in particular, obama. You see, he hates people that have made good for themselves and likes it when you fail and rely on big government, and that is exactly how he keeps his people in the ghettos and gets their votes. Its a shame but a fact...
I saw it - I am proud of you sir, and i shake your hand, you are the very first black man that has told me he is not a democrat and came back and challanged my post. Good for you sir, and may you always be successful. Its a shame what politics are doing to this country now and unfortunately our president has promoted a lot of the class warfare going around right now. I never saw a president in my life thumb his nose at the constitution, do whatever he wants, announce his dislike for businesses that make a profit, reward unions and union workers with stimulus money, but not regular workers, demonize people that have been succesful, and then wonder why the economy has been so bad for so long... oh wait, still George Bushs fault.... He is disgraceful at the least.
" I never saw a president in my life thumb his nose at the constitution, do whatever he wants"
Really!!???? There was this guy named George W. Bush-maybe you've heard of him-who not only trampled the Constitution but used the agreements made to adhere to the Geneva Convention to wipe his ass! Bush bailed out bankers and Obama bailed out blue-collar American workers. You say you are retired-I knew that from your first post. I keep telling my kids that all the old racists are dying off. It is a more beautiful, interesting, colorful country with every generation born. Crawl out of your hole and see. And, by the way, if you are a millionaire, why are we sending our kids to college? "Your" and "you're" are not interchangeable.
Some people regard Freedom of Speech as endless obligation.
Or to paraphrase "With great freedom comes great responsibility".
I just wonder if we need to add Amendment 2b to the Constitution: "Let no agent or agency of any State or Federal Government infringe upon the Freedom of Thought, and let all be aware that failing to exercise this Freedom in conjunction with any other Rights, written or implied herein, is at the risk of the individual."
Freedom of speech deals exclusively with the citizen/government dynamic. It doesn't protect your job when you say something that pisses your private-sector employer off.
Hasn't seemed to affect Pizza Hut's sales, which is a Pepsi distributor and the largest pizza company in the world. I don't think Papa John's will miss your business.
So an employee having a bad day, or in a bad mood, or who felt somehow wronged by that customer (notice how nobody brings that up, if Mrs chinkey eyes was being a royal pain in the butt) acted in a manner which didn't bring physical harm to anyone but did manage to get him terminated. OK, action taken. This lady gets her 15 minutes and Big Papa will fly to Brooklyn and offer her free crappy pizzas for life.
Excellent point. With the economic downturn, customers have gotten more demanding... more rude and expect so much more for so much less while increasing wages.....More than once, I have had a customer in front of me answer their cell, tell the clerk to "hold on" and yap about who did what to who last week.....
This employee had a reason for putting that on the receipt... we should be told his version for fairness.....
Seriously?!? I bet more than anything this employee was some loser adult or an idiotic kid who did not finish high school or even get a GED. Fast food restaurants need to raise their standards back to a level that requires at least a high school diploma or GED. Though I've never experienced such overt treatment, I've had too many of my orders given to me incorrectly or I've actually had to show the employee how to count the change due to me. Gone are the days when having to look forward to working at a place no better than McDonald's was enough of a threat to get your kids to do well in school. The kids who barely finish high school have more intelligence than the person taking your order at most fast food chains.
Yea, but you take a customer service job, you're going to get a jerk once in a while. In that position, you can take it or ask the customer to leave. Being rude and a jerk back isn't good customer service or professional. Thus, the kid was fired. Maybe that was his goal...
I don't take life too seriously, so I'd find it funny. But, for every one like me, there are 99 others that get pissed. I wonder if she got a free pizza and Coke (no, wait...)?
this is not a new phenomena or anything worthy of a story. there are idiots today, and there were idiots 10 years ago, 50 years ago, 100 years ago, 1000 years ago.
they were fired, maybe they will learn, probably not - but there will always be another one to take their place.
Are you serious? I don't care what someone may have done to "deserve" this, a clerk in a resteraunt has no cause to call a customer a racial slur! If she was being a total bitch, it would have been up to the clerk to get the manager, and asked her to leave.
Yes everyone has to watch what is said with all the sensitive people now days. I remember when I was a kid and jokes meant nothing but laughs but this isn't what you call a joke. It's over lets move on the only thing left now is the lawsuit that everybody knows is coming. It wasn't poppa johns fault it was the kid who did this but Popajohns will end up paying for it with our warped society's laws. Have wonderful day, is that ok
Your response is at the heart of two things occurring in this country. 1) Decline in work ethic and 2) Lack of empathy.
First, you surmise that a person working in the customer service field should discontinue being a professional if a customer gives them a difficult time? I doubt that would be your response if you were a business owner hiring employees to interact with the public. If you agree with this employee's idiotic behavior then you should never complain if you are treated badly by an employee who is having a bad day, or didn't like the way you spoke to them that day.
Last, even if this woman was an ass to that employee then why is the response immediately a racial slur? Worst yet, why would you defend anyone who would even go there. Fact is, this employee thought that they were going to get away with being an ass and got caught, and got fired. Tough economic times have nothing to do with losing our civility towards one another.
Customers have always been demanding and a bad economy has nothing to do with it. People need to go to work and suck it up like the rest of us. If you cannot work with the public then stay home. If you condone that behavior then the next time you are serviced immediately alert the employee assisting you that they are allowed to be rude and racist towards you to disperse any confusion.
Dirty South- Let me guess.....You are a teacher of some sort. I love how you bring back finishing high school or even a GED. There are many people out there that graduate or go back and get there GED yet still have no common sense. Graduating has nothing to do with this. This is about a kid who may have graduated yet was left to learn on his own because his parents did not give a damn, or better yet were scared to discipline because people just like you would turn them in because they did not discipline the exact way that you do. Parents need to teach their kids respect in the same way there parents taught them. Don't let society run how you raise your kids. I would have got my a$$ beat and would be made to apologize to all involved when I was a kid, and yet I still love my parents just as much. Oh btw.....I was a high school drop out and now manage a company of about 80 employees.....
In another scenerio, the employee could have been swamped. The ordering room nut to butt and he was using words that would help to identify a customer based on a brief visual discription so he and or others would be able to unite the customer with her pizza. This customer just actually looked and the reciept and took notice and then alerted the media.
Alright, after I first chuckled for a second (sorry, I found it a little bit humorous), I realized that this is exactly why classes like "Racial Tolerance 101" should be mandatory in American High Schools...
OR PARENTS could teach their kids the same.... why waste money on teaching MANNERS... TOLERANCE (that always was part of the Church experience) and following the rules of our society? We left Sex Ed to the Schools and look what we have.....We left Social Security up to the Gov't and look what we have.
Put the responsibility where it belongs... on the family and the individual......
No one ever blames the parents. It's always the schools fault, or the employers fault. No, it's the parents fault for not teaching their kids. Ok, I get that both parents work full time and don't have time for their kids. At least they have that Escalade.
PC509a--Don’t bring work into this. I work full time, as does my husband, and my toddler has more manners than most adults I’ve met. Even my 8 month old stops screaming when I nicely tell her to stop.
church teaches morality and morality has everything to do with this conversation. but with that being said, I am tired of every blog turning into that discussion as well. so I respectfully disagree and agree.
I'd home school my kid if they added Diversity 101, when they don't even have enough room for all the necessary math and science courses. If I want my kids to hate Mexicans, they'll hate Mexicans. There's nothing you or the government can do about it. I can pull off propaganda in the home just as well as the government can over public channels.
You are on to something, but I agree with some others that it goes way beyond teaching things in school. Now, of course as parents we know that no matter what we teach at times children will be rude, do stupid things. Of course its not clear if this employee was a child. But assuming that. Also, instead of racial sensitivity classes, lets just have classes on civility. Lets call it Civility 101 for all levels of education and beyond. I think we must first learn how to be respectful towards one another before we can even broach being empathetic towards someone because their race is different from ours.
No it shouldn't be, I hope you were stating that just to see if you could get a reaction from everyone. People need to take responsibility for themselves and their kids not the government. We used to have children start school in 1st grade (6yrs old), then kindergarten (5yrs old) was added, then it was PreK (age 4), now we have headstart/surestart (age 3). Pretty soon we'll be giving birth and handing our kids over immediately for indoctrination on merly memorizing what they are told and not doing any critical thinking for themselves as is becoming popular in school. Seriously people stop just breeding and start raising your kids! Its pure laziness. Kids are not always easy if you are not willing to do the work, then don't have them. As a culture we have become oblivious to each other, we need to get back to the way it use to be. If a neighbor saw your kid doing something wrong they told the kid to stop and the kid stopped because they knew their parents were going to find out and they were going to get in trouble. Now everyone is afraid to say anything because the parents will be defensive and say, "not my kid, my kid would never do that!" sorry but your kids aren't perfect, they are still learning. Which is why they are suppose to have adults to teach and guide them and get on to them when they are doing wrong things. There is a saying, "it takes a village to raise a child", we have forgotten that. My son's teachers actually have told me how refreshing it is that when they tell me my son or sons has done something I actually take the teacher side and set up disciplinary action depending on what they have done and how bad it was. They know that I know the teacher and check with her at least once a week (usually when I picked them up I make sure to ask her how things are going and she either says they are doing good or this happened and I tell her thank you for telling me) to see how they are behaving and doing and they know there are consequences as well as rewards in life. The teacher usually only has to say, I will be speaking to your mom today if they do start to give her problems and yes I am a very very busy parent with other things going on but I make the time because my kids are my most precious gifts in life and I am responsible for how they turn out as ADULTS! as productive members of society! Parents though usually take their kids side and blame the teachers so the kids know they can get away with crap. That goes true in public too, if you see a kid doing something wrong tell them to stop, don't just put your blinders on and keep walking, no wonder kids think they can do whatever they want. Tell their parents what they are doing, people need to be held accountable by their fellow members in society not the government. Also, if someone tells you that your kid is doing something wrong be able to accept it, don't yell at the messenger rather instead, thank them for having eyes out on your kid when you couldn't, then take the time to talk to your kid and find out why they did what they did if they know its wrong and why, what they need to work on, if it is continuous then what the punishment will be if they don't stop. Kids need guidelines, structure, and consequences. This needs to be done or our society will continue to just get worse and worse.
Alicia, you are absolutely right and thanks for taking the time to say it. Seems that nowadays, schools not only need to teach the basics of the alphabet and numbers to children, but also need to teach character-building skills such as "do not lie, cheat, steal, or litter" and respect your elders -- morals that used to be taught at home by parents. I was appalled to realize when my own kids started school, how many of their little classmates had never heard of these basic rules of life.
It's the parents place to "SHOW" their kids how to act in public. Regardless of whether it's at school or at work, it's still a public setting and how you were raised by your parents shows. The school teachers place in a childs life is to teach, a parents is to lead by example, and correct wrong doing. I was raised on a farm and my father had quite a few blacks work for him. IF he EVER heard one of the 4 of us kids be disrespectful to one of them he would have beat us until we could not set down. I didn't then and 48 years later would never call someone a name for fear my dad would come back from the grave to beat my butt. I'm just saying......
what a bad thing for a child to do on probably the first job they ever had, but like the post above states @ED 6.1 I bet she got the right order. As a young employee maybe instead of termination why not let them formally apologize and then give every Papa John Pizza employee sensitivity training on what and how to do this correctly and not how everyone else does it. Do you think they came up with that idea on their own? probally was taught by the 18yo shift manager and they still have a job
Great way to blame everybody but the employee... poor little guy... it couldn't possibly be his fault......THAT has become the American way... we learned it from our current President..... "it's not MY fault."
Actually, this employee benefitted greatly. They are learning that there are consequences to actions. Too often nowadays, kids aren't learning that until it's too late. OK, he got fired from his first job. He'll remember in the future.
This is the beauty of the service-sector economy. Do you think that kid gives a rat's ass about his minimum wage job? He'll have another one in 24 hours... probably 2 doors down in the strip mall. There's a certain freedom to being paid peanuts...
What Paul just said is the absolute truth. Everyone has learned the blame game from that kid all the way up the line to our president. That comment includes Obama, but not putting specific blame on him. We would need a whole forum just for that.
Spud, aptly named, potato head. he did not blame it on Obama. In his opinion, it is " like " Obama, " it's not my fault". After 3 years, that wore off a long time ago. not getting my vote this time. hey, everyone, ask yourself if you ( and the country) are any better off than you were 3 years ago.
Since this is about race stuff, can someone tell me why Obama ( who is more white than black: Caucasian genes are dominant), is considered a black man by the black community, and a black man by the white community. Seems to me racism is much more rampant than people and the media like to admit. I don't like Obama because he is totally inept as a leader, and has done nothing to elevate this country, financially, or morally, not because he is Mulatto
@ Paul. You had me up until the President Obama comment. First of all, if children are learning to "blame everyone but themselves" then I suggest you read or re-read George Bush's latest book, and while you are doing that rehash the entire 8 years of his presidency. Further, this disucssion has nothing to do with President Obama, or politics at all. Its about a jerk who got fired. There is nothing to defend there, but since you opened the gate. Your response was typical Republican fodder. Blame Obama for all that is wrong with the world. The day any of you come with an intelligent response to anything regarding Obama it will be a good one.
as i have been told if you dont like obama its becasue your a rasist not becasue you dont agree with the way he runs teh country. Anything negitive said about abama its becasue he is black. I am so sick of this So I am rasist becase i cant stand this president so then what do you call the people that hate Bush if you use teh same way of thinking people that dont like bush must hate white old men or maybe because he was in teh military are they not also rasist then?
Also to add to this we have black history month scolorships for every race but the white person no one protest this or fights this but have a white only school (the black do) or scholerhips for white people only and see what happens. if racism is any where now days its against the white person esp mailes and fat people that are white but no one protest this do they
I cannot keep up with what is insulting and what isn't when it comes to "may I say "African American" Its even in the dictionary as being of mixed ancestory of caucasion and African American. What is politically correct today? Seriously, what is acceptable today will get you arrested for a hate crime tomorrow.
Education. Try it. Not one dam thing you said made sense. You're pathetic. Because of your ignorance, I will try and educate you. First of all, for anyone, and I mean all the other idiots posting to this story too, if every topic discussed has a way for you to bring the President into it, you have an issue. Racist issue or not, you're angry. A topic can be discussed about how deer are mating too early in the year and somehow, you idiots will find the President in that dicussion. PATHETIC!
as far as black hist. month, BET, black schools and such, white America has control of about 95% of every other aspect in this country. What the hell else do you want ya greedy s.o.b? BLACK HISTORY is why you are the majority, demented fool. This country was built off the backs of slaves blood, sweat, tears and lives, self centered ass! Why do you think the white majority have always and always will be ahead? 500 plus years of free labor wiould help any country to get ahead.
That's why those minor tokens are put into place scum bag, so the minority might have a chance to dream to get there too. Racism have not been reversed nor have it went anywhere. If you still feel "oppressed", blame your ancestors. They raped, stole and killed nations of people to get us where "WE" are today. Yes, the President is black. Deal with it! One out of 44 is not so bad, right?
oldman young eyes - caucasion genes are more dominant??? Why does he look so black then?? There are many full blacks that are much lighter in complexion to him. He is darker than any tan I've ever seen on any white person and he has kinky hair...
silverton-- Where the hell do we find the freakin' book that tells us what words are racist, out dated and now racist and so on. Black people I know have used the word "mulatto". Sick and tired of having to watch every word and even every opinion. Any body read the story about the 15 year old than ran, got arrested for stealing, Lied about her name and even about being an American. Then got deported to Colombia when the fake name turned out to be false? Because I expressed the opinion that this girl needed to take responsibilty for her actions I was called numerous names including racist. Yet on this post this employee is taken to task called racist etc.. HE did not steal or lie to the government but he should be fired andsome have expressed a lot worse towards this person. Seems like the ones calling out racist the most are the ones who actually are. Check history of the world blaacks were enslaving blacks in North Africa long before Americans enslaved them. Also there is a long histroy of white slavery in American and abroad. Look it up!!
I cannot speak for African Americans or those of mixed race, since I am Caucasian, and as I said above, I get weary of fumbling with politically correct terms that are constantly changing as well. But, I do try to show respect.
It is kinda' funny (I've called people worse). And likely, the woman was a jerk to someone at some point there, however, the comment was in bad taste and lacking customer service. Lesson learned (hopefully)
It was a little funny, you and everyone else need to stop blowing this way out of proportion. AND the "comment" was based on a factual truth, so atleast he wasent lieing. lol your too funny getting this upset over something as insignifical as this.
Same thing happened to us with T mobile. There was a problem where someone ordered a phone & did a bunch of other things on our account & the CSR tried to give us a hard time about it. It was fraud & we wasnt in a good mood about it to begin with. We chewed his ass out & when we called back to follow up on what had been done the next rep read the account notes & mumbled "Oh yeah thats real classy". The previous rep had all ready left/been fired & we could not get t-mobile to repeat the derogotory note left by the previous person. Yeah we would have sued t mobile if we could have gotten our hands on that nasty little note left. But since it came from their internal computer system & never got printed out they destroyed the evidence I assume.
So you chewed someone's ass out who was not responsible for your problem and want to sue T-mobile because they left an unflattering remark in the notes about you? OK. Do you even know what it said? Working with inconsiderate customers is a pain in the ass. Have you ever been on the receiving end of an idiot that wants to blame you for everything bad that has ever occured to them? Yeah, sue 'em. Sheesh!
Do you truly believe T-Mobile owes you restitution for something you "believe" existed but never saw? Maybe you should look up your old high school bully and sue him/her and while your at it sue the school. Maybe this will help make you feel better about yourself.
Typical entitlement baby. I wish they'd given you a transcript of the account, so you could find out in a heartbeat you wouldn't get a single dime from T-mobile. You'd of actually lost money after you paid the court costs on your frivolous lawsuit. They could call you a "phucking azzwipe" on the phone, own up to it in court and they still wouldn't owe you a penny. It's not against the law, and you always have the option of leaving your contract after paying them the ETF. Welcome to capitalism.
So the can call you a @!$%#ing asswipe?? Really?? what are we even discussing this story for if thats the case. IT msut not be against the law to casll some body chinky eyed lady then.Right?
Wait, so it’s okay for a national media source to type the word “chinky” in their headline? Really? There was no other way to word that one? Way to go MSNBC.
I admit it, I laughed when I saw the receipt. Hell, I’d probably laugh if someone wrote “dumb bitch” on my receipt at Papa Johns, but I’m awesome like that.
New York pizza sucks. If your pizza was actually any good, YOU'd have all the national chains. You have Pizza Hut, then the other best pizzas in the country... from Detroit. That soggy doughed, nasty ass sauce garbage you call pizza could never make it in the big leagues. For all the hype blowing in the wind about New York and Chicago, it's the city in-between that runs the entire industry. You arrogant, blow-hards crack the rest of us up. You're the butt of the joke, and you don't even know it.
Toss are you serious? Where do you live? Manhattan is full of franchises and full of different people who don't know the difference between good pizza and bad. I live in NYC and would say NY pizza by far is better than any other pizza in the states. All pizza shops are not created equal. If its ran by real italians and I'm talking real it's going to be real good. If it's made by the chinky eye ladys brother wide eye'd man probably not so good. You want real italian pizza you gotta take a trip to Brooklyn NY.
Um maybe she was just stoned and they identified her by her appearance ... o come on you have heard the saying "chink eyed" to say someone is really high .... just sayin....
yeah, but its still the best..... make sure when you go into these restaurants that you ask if the Cat is fresh... dog is not bad, nor monkey...... it all depends on what you like
inbill, Just a thought, You call The Real Slim K a dumb ass, what's the diffrence in what this Papa John's employee did. Your all very rude to each other. There is REALLY no reason to call someone a name just because you don't agree with them. SO CHILDISH!!
Not long ago it happened here in Sacramento at a fast food joint and the two clerks were immediately terminated as they should have been. If you want to be a racist peckerwood out and about and get your a$$ beat go for it cracker! If you are at work, you are the face of your employer andyou do NOT have the right to besmirch their hard earned reputation. Papa John's may not be the best pizzaor company to work for but only the owner has the right to ruin his company's reputation, whatever that reputation may be.
What does chinky eyes have to do with anything?! It was just a way of keeping track of what the heck order was whose. Any way, the employee should not have been "dismissed." This was an excellent opportunity to learn!
Organizations can effectively learn from their mistakes when management and employees accept that mistakes have been made and that opportunities for improvement exist. If personnel begin by denying an error has occurred or downplay its significance, then they miss out on taking full advantage of opportunities to learn and improve. By identifying problems with procedures, processes, and programs, in addition to recognizing human errors, an organization can move away from placing blame and move toward understanding, learning, improving, and preventing future events.
Further more, as far as political correctness is concerned, get over it lady. Besides Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
I like how you think, Wagon Man. There was a greasy spoon restaurant I inhabited in college. They gave out nicknames to some regulars and woulld call out names when the food was ready. My name was Freckles. Others I recall were PooBear, Ichabod, Turkey (because that's what he usually ate), and Chatterbox (a quiet guy). We weren't offended, just amused. Another thing, did she or did she not have "chinky" eyes? That was probably a realistic appraisal to help id the customer..a bad decision, yes, but maybe the kind of offense to keep you from buying pizza there ever again, not something to get all lathered up and contact the politically correct machine that is the MSM. Get over it, move on...
Well Amen to that, good sir. I use to work at Applebee's and I gave nicknames to the cooks, because well, why the hell not? I called one guy Donavan because he looked like Donavan McNabb, I called another guy Cracker (he was black) because he liked to smoke crack, I called another guy John because the story was he had a very long pointer just like John Holmes, I called another guy Poindexter because he was a straight up dumbass, I called another guy Fatty because he was fat, and lastly I called my boss an @!$%# because that's what he was. What's the big deal here? The woman had chinky eyes... good way to remember her! I mean, really!
The comment on the receipt is despicable, however, this is not national news worthy. Just more fluff. And yes, the kid should be fired and maybe learn a lesson that way. Respect people.
Am I the only one who thinks this was hilarious? I mean it may be "Racist" but it's in no way harmful, and for all we know the customer may have done something to incite this upon herself.
This was a racist remark in everyway. All patrons should be treated with the utmost respect. This is a business, not one of your friends. People now days have a lot to learn about Respect. I'm glad the employee was fired. Now maybe they should hold classes when they start work there on etiquette.
@reginald brown..... all us honkeys will be standing in the welfare line right behind your whole lazy ass family that probably never have worked a day in their lives.
I don't think the kid did anything wrong. He didn't have the name so he used a description. Chink means a narrow opening. He could of said a woman with narrow eyes but would that have been OK? Some people are so sensitive jeesh! What if he said short haired woman with mustache? LOl, he didn't commit a crime nor was it really racial. He definitely is not the smartest person for what he did.
By the way, what's a white trash honkey? Reginald Brown<<<you gotta love your name. Hey look your name is brown you are probably African American. Now what if your receipt said brown guy, would that be an issue? "John that receipt wasn't for the chinky eye lady, it was for the brown guy what's his name?? Mr. Brown. What a coincidence.
I personally think people pull the race card all too much. The truth is we are all one race, The Human Race! The word race is obsolete today. The past is the past people if you keep looking back, you are never going to move forward. Negative things and people are all around us and so don't fall into its evil trap called misery. It can ruin your precious 24hr day if you get to live the whole day. Stay focused, be positive and who gives a f___K what someone thinks about you or your race!
This is absolutely ridiculous. It's a good thing that punk kid got dismissed. Everyone is saying we need to lighten up. That may be true if this took place at a comedy club, where it is possible that such a thing could be said. However, this woman simply wanted to buy a pizza, and did not expect such treatment. The word "Chink," is a racial slur directed toward those of Asian ancestry. If he didn't have a name, he could've just written on the receipt, "Asian Lady." Why does he have to right a racial slur. Some people might not find the word "Chink" to be offensive, but some definitely do. Does one HAVE to say racial slurs in today's society?
You may feel different. But don't tell others what to feel.
Oh, so that's how it is. Using a racist term against minorities is perfectly okay to you, but when Reginald uses a racist term against whites, you closet KKK members pounce on him for attacking whites. Racism works both ways you know.
Will- This is America the land with all different type ethnicity. Is it right to do what he did? He really didn't do anything. Look up chink in the dictionary. It's not racial. The deal here is that we are all made to believe it is. People point people out by there looks. I'm sure you heard the saying, "don't judge a book by its cover" plenty of times and that was created because humans have a tendency of doing that. Is it right? Who says its wrong? I'm saying, don't focus on negativity but on positivity. That's just energy wasted. The world is filled with all walks of life and all different but we are all one.
Well, the way I see it, he can think or say anything he wants when he is on his own time, but when he is working for and representing someone elses business, he needs to mind his manners. When his name is on the bottom of the payroll checks for his own business, he can do as he pleases. I imagine he would then have a differant attitude on how to conduct business with the public.
Danny- Overall, I agree. Under the sky, we are all one family. It just so happens, we are different. However, using the word "chink" is racial. I looked it up in the dictionary like you suggested. If you follow the link, you will find that the word "chink," is listed as a slang word, as well as offensive and disparaging.
You are correct on many of your points, but on this you are wrong. The word, "chink" is racial and offensive when used in the context that the employee intended to. You can even type the word chink into wikipedia and get a historical overview on this slur.
Will- I looked the word up before posting and I am well familiar with the word and how some people use it. I'm not saying it can't be offensive, I am saying that the kid didn't break any laws. I'm also saying that the kid is ignorant for using that term.
Danny- You're right. He didn't break any laws. However, in both you're posts you said that he didn't do anything wrong, nor was it racial. I completely disagree with you on this point. Of course it is racist to use that word. People use the word "n*ger" for blacks, "wet*acks" for latinos, and "ch*nks" for Asians. So in your opinion. Do you think the kid did anything wrong? Was it racially motivated?
Danny - You are right. Maybe the kid didn't break any laws.
However, his employer, in this case Papa Johns, still has the right to terminate his employment, or otherwise discipline him, for behaving in a manner they deem unsuitable for their employees.
Totally unexceptable!
I think the word you want to use is 'unacceptable'. 'Unexceptable' is not a word. Maybe you should be in school at this time of day.
I just read a while back that this happened in a Chik-fil-a with the names Ching and Chong.
These kids are such brats now in days.
Free pizza for life. Plus a substantial dollar amount!
Blake, oh, I'm glad you're here. You're right. I couldn't remember what names or the place (you'll be old one day, too!) but we probably both read that right here.
You're right because I remember wondering why the kid didn't mark it "Cheech" and "Chong" lol
What the heck is it with these Asian slurs that last couple weeks. Kinda makes you wonder if the media is in some way manipulating the news, doesn't it?
schoolyard, Really? "A substantial dollar amount?"
No doubt it was unacceptable, but frankly, she was not harmed. So one idiot kid does something wrong, and you want to sue...that is unacceptable.
If there's any fallout from this it should land squarely on the shoulders of the punk who pulled this "prank". Of course it won't,by the time the sharks (lawyers) get involved everyone but the guilty party will be sued.
Where's the other side of the story?
Papa would look pretty stupid if the employee was just trying to get her attention....... I would just tell Papa I thought she had hott sexy eyes and wanted to get her number....... lol .............. how stupid for the world to even be involved......
It was funny, people need to lighten up. I once got a receipt that had my customer name as "roundeye" and I thought it was pretty funny too.
Kevin,
I did'nt say she should sue. Take a look anywhere in the news. Law suits are the get rich quick scheme. Nobody wants to work for their money anymore. Sad but true!
Blake-
"These kids are such brats now in days"
No, not all kids. Only ones raised in homes where racism is prevalent and acceptable. We live in a rural area and I get so sick of hearing parents say "I am NOT racist but I would never let my daughter date a black boy" or " I am not racist but I don't believe in race-mixing because it is hard on the kids" I want to scream "YOU are the problem! YOU are racist!"
Lol, reminds me of the Mcdonalds one where they put "F*** You" on the receipt. Rofl, I love some people's immaturity.
Texas Growl; your employer must be so proud of you...I bet you work for daddy.
Explain why Papa John's (there is no Papa) would look stupid...your self entitlement isn't why you got hired....
Hiring someone like you would look stupid...lol.
To Imatthebeach...........The media is manipulating the news? It's called reporting. Where do you get your crazy ideas? Don't we have enough crap going on without you making sh^t up?
Another example of PC BS run amok. If she is offended by this, how in the world does she survive in NYC? What a shame someone has to lose their job in this economy over something stupid like this. There was a time when an apology would do or at worse a verbal warning from the employer not to ever do it again.
To4ever,
I apologize for generalizing. But I think you got my point either way. I wasn't expecting anyone to acually think that deep into my comment.
Correction: it was a Burger King Receipt. Still funny as heck xD
I see nothing wrong with this shorthand use to keep your customers straight.
Let's see...The homie wanted pepperoni, and Mao Tse Tung gets the Sicilian style. Chubby wants sausage and onions, while the gangsta gets olives and ham.
The raghead wants goat cheeze, and Marilyn Monroe wants just plain cheese with a thin crust. All part of customer service.
At least he called her a lady.
That would go over like a fart in church. "The jew wants this, the honkey that, and give the fat broad a diet coke". Don't think ye would be in business long, or alive, for that matter. (I'd give gangtsa whatever he wants, seeeee?)
That kid couldn't help it that "lady chinky eyes" was the easiest, shortest, and most descriptive way to describe that person without knowing their name.
Ok it is time restaurants need to change their comment section on their receipt to be internal not printed out. Common sense woul tell you hat is not the way to do business. Probably this person heard about the Chic filet episode and a lot of them try to one up others. So in effect you are letting a possible disgrutled employee display their beef on a customers receipt. Stupid if you ask me.
Considering that half the people posting and seeing this as no big deal - are probably posting from a work computer....what do you expect....little angels...lol.
Probably could not spelt oriental.
Totally true. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Anyone who has to qualify whatever they are saying with, "I'm not a racist, but..." is, indeed, a racist.
LMAO, i love it.
i wouldnt have even fired the kid for that. I would have used it as a teachable moment. yes it was stupid, he probably cost his company millions of dollars and tons of headaches. but we have a responsibility to help other people grow and this kid needs a good smack in the head.
when i was a kid my father had an accountant that made an error that cost him close to a 100,000 dollars. i couldnt believe he didnt fire the lady. and he told me son, it was a mistake i have already lost the money but do you think she is going to make a mistake like that again. she went on to be a loyal and good employee for years.
Actually, moz, technically, there IS such a word. As in, some things are exceptions to a rule but some things are absolute and cannot be made exceptions. Those things, then, would be un-exceptable. (Computer dictionaries don't know everything!)
And,
There IS a Papa. His name is John Schnatter. He grew up in Jeffersonville, IN (Just across the river from his current home in Louisville, KY.) He started his pizza business in the back of a bar, which used to be a small restaurant and had an unused oven in a back also unused room. And, while Schnatter had no children when he first started his enterprise (he was still in college), he is, indeed, a papa now. (He is a lot of other things, too, but I won't get into that here. Suffice to say, he does not need some adolescent in New York writing ignorant, unthinking notes on a receipt to make him look stupid. He's quite adept at that all on his own.)
And Joseph E Parent: That rant on the homie, Mao, and Marilyn is a riot. I can see it playing well on SNL or Comedy Central. Not so much in the real world, tho.
Oh, yeh. And the guy you see in the PJ commercials? That's the chief asterisk, himself! Yeah. There really is a Papa.
I worked at Papa John's in '02 and whenever a cashier took an order on the phone OR in person, they asked the customer's name. Problem avoided. What's so hard about that? Duh.
This makes me feel like going through all my receipts to see if someone gave me an offending name like "Mr Hot A$$"
I've heard it said that EVERYBODY should start their sentences with that, potential racist comment or not, until it becomes so annoying that racism is no longer even an issue.
"I'm not a racist, but can I get these copies made?"
"I'm not a racist, but I'd like a number three, hold the mustard, and a latte."
"I'm not a racist, but go clean your room!"
Et cetera, et cetera. :P
I actually feel sorry for Papa John's. Their pizza sucks but now the company is going to have to cough up an astronomical amount of cash just because some minimum wage loser decided to be a smartass.
Right Virgil,
The mick wants goat cheese, the kike wants kosher sausage, the wop wants peperoni, the honkey gets thick crust, the spic wants salsa.
No problemo.
How about you a$$hole?? How do you want your pizza??
SoSickoftheGOP: I agree with you on the GOP but have relatively lately come to the conclusion it matters very little how we vote; it's the same old, same old.
Here's a suggestion for you: open your mind, research who/what corporations own all the various media outlets and come to a logical conclusion.
Leave a message on my accounts page when you do, okay? I can't post links here and don't have the time, anyway.
xxoo Beach
So, did the lady have Chinky Eyes or not?
Yeah,
This country has gone to hell, First we have men and women that have no balls to tell whoever is harassing them at work to F'off or the next time, I tell the boss I want him fired on sexual harassment since it is a all encompassing term which includes hearing a dirty joke, or bad prank.
Then we have this wonderful thing called oh you called me a racial slur, all the while we have no issues calling people fat ass when they are over weight.
What a crock of sh*t people are. If you don't have the balls to confront those that offend them, but instead resort to this stupid thing called tweeting, or you tubing, go find a hole and bury yourself in it. Your just as much a piece of sh*t as the one who is offending you, which makes you just as much a disgrace to the human race as a whole, as in a**hole.
If you can't handle something as small as this, a word, you need to bury yourself in a hole.
As more and more of this crap plays out, it's proof that we as a country are truly pathetic, and deserve our fate. Maybe the next regime will take all the rights away and the first person who bitches and complains that they were caused pain and discomfort on their receipt will be summarily put to death on the spot.
People if you don't like it, make you stand at the moment it happens otherwise keep your mouth shut, and your pathetic pictures where they should be in the garbage bin.
We have turned our country into pussies, and lawyer calling pukes, with $$$ on the mind in hopes of grabbing a lottery moment. When will there be enough, is enough.
A person lost their job over this, because miss, or mr. cheech or ching chong, couldn't stick up for her or himself, and if they had it would have been nipped in the bud.
If people would remember that the customer has more power than the person providing the service, just as long as it stay on those lines. If the customer is dissatisfied with what they receive or how they are treated, you either speak up or forever tuck your tail between your legs, but don't go acting all I'll go get that pri*k or bit*h , I'll tweet it, or you tube it, because if you do, and this guy or gal finds out where you live, you most likely will get your a** tossed in the dumpster, or worse dead, depending on his or her temper, and don't think it won't happen, especially in New York, it's a big city, and lots of place to dump a body.
If more people did more bitching the minute it happened there'd be less tweeting, and it would be corrected much sooner than later.
A bit of advise for those that do this tweeting sh*t, put the phone down, and grab those man ball's, and this goes for you whiny women, you too grab them as well and stick up for yourself, or keep or F'n mouth shut.
What's the big deal? At least he called her a "Lady".
I honestly dont think the "company" owed an apology. Firing the employee was enough. Probably was some 16 year old kid anyway, people need to grow a pair.
The "big deal" is that he did not do this on the street or in a playground or in a school or movie theater. That would have been rudely racist enough. He did it during the course of his employment as the representative of a company that put him to work, pays him for his efforts and expects loyalty and concern for corporate image...at the minimum. That company has hundreds of millions of dollars invested in a positive public image and positive brand recognition and some young A-hole with a bad attitude or an even worse sense of humor sets the company back a whole bunch in the Asian community. Any one who can defend what this jerk did in the context in which he did it apparently has no respect for corporate investment, image, job creation and, ultimately, how racially-based rudeness impacts negatively on those things in the form of lost business. If I were the manager of that store or the president of the company, this woman would be receiving free orders for a year as an apology, and this kid had better not use the company as a reference for future employment - at least not without a super-convincing apology to the woman and to the company. Plus, if this woman were my wife, my sister, my mother, my daughter or my girlfriend, this would not end here.
The good thing about slurs like this one is that you only remember them for about an hour or so...
I have friends who are fat, and laugh at fat jokes. I have friends who are bald, and laugh at bald jokes. I have friends who are gay, and laugh at gay jokes.
This is NOT national News - and absolutely no one was harmed. The fact that every time you you look at a paystub and see in black and white that you have been raped by Social Security... now THAT's news.
Inappropriate for certain and he should have been dismissed.
@schoolyard, why does it always have to be about free stuff and money? the employee is out, end of the deal.
Freakin funny. "Come, let me teach you -SMACK-! Got that? Good, don't do it again."
Wow everybody is always looking for a way to start a lawsuit. THe lady got an apology and the employee was dismissed. She does'nt deserve monetarty damages. Did it occurr to anyone that the employee probably did'nt ask the customers name to put on the reciept like should of been done and ended up putting that description on the receipt so she/he would remember which customer the order went to. Everyone wants to think everybody is out to slur people when we all use descriptions when we can't remember somebodys name. Bet the woman has used a slur a time or two in her life as well. Probably when she saw the receipt!! Get over it!
drainbramage... I agree..... and the rest are posting from their home computers or phones, so they, (like me) don't give a rats fat a-double what the PC crowd thinks. Back in the day, the manager would have told the customer he was sorry if it offended her, and here is a coupon for a free meal... then patted the kid on the shoulder as he told him (in a voice loud enough for the customer to hear) he shouldn't do that again, winking at him with a hidden eye. The kid would've gotten the message, as would the customer... end of story. If that doesn't satisfy the customer... TO HELL WITH HER
Instead of putting down names why not go back to the number system like they use to have. Then the customer has show thier reciept to get thier product or food.
Call me jaded or cynical or just down-right distrusting of anything I see in the news anymore but a little red flag went up for me on this, like all the other too-stupid to do things I see in the news. If this honestly happened, then the firing of the employee and apology with a free pizza should suffice. However, if a lawsuit is filed, please check to see if the order taker and the customer know each other and/or can be traced to each other someway. I feel there is too much gaming of the system going on today and when something is this wrong, look for the angle. Robert S.
My first thought reading this article was wouldn't it be just ironic if that is the name the person gave knowing that some minion would type it on the ticket so she could post it around and try to get some free stuff? Unless the security tapes record sound too (I'm sure some of them do but I've never seen one that did) there would be no way for the employee to verify they did and the customer would just say "why would I give a name like that?".
Why would anyone go to papa johns for pizza in NYC?
The same reason they would go to Louie's chop suey....duh
I guess you just proved my point moron.......
Imatthebeach,
"...Here's a suggestion for you: open your mind, research who/what corporations own all the various media outlets and come to a logical conclusion."
Ditto, and thumb up.
I see nothing wrong with those statements since it doesn't mess with the current 4 favored minorities:
The big nosed Jew wants extra cheese. - not acceptable
The wet back wants extra jalapenos. - not acceptable
The jig wants chicken. - not acceptable
The terrorist wants no ham. - not acceptable
But as long as you don't disparage those favored races, all is good.
I geuss it would have been different if he would of smacked her in the head with the pizza when he gave it to her,but he didn't. To me this sounds alot like a bunch of 5th graders on the playground. GROW UP people, they are just words nothing more!
Its one thing if the person writing it is the only one seeing it(your brain still being able to think what you want) but when you hand out comments like that to the people, you might not be physically hurting them but its almost like a spit in the face. Since you are working for a company I'm sure they don't support spitting on thier customers. You still have freedom of speech whenever you want and to also reap the consequences of it.
KennethC: What the heck are you talking about? Your post makes absolutely NO sense at all!!!
Oh wow, doesn't this ignorant pizza pusher realize that in our left wing dominated, politically correct society, it is only permissable to make fun of conservative Christians? I say he deserves the death penalty for this hideous crime!
Ill also tell you the truth about racism but its beyond half the people here. Its not just the deragotory words and hate that make up racism but the labels you proudly put on yourself that is the start of all racism and hate against our own brothers and sisters. First and foremost you are a human and a human only every other label you have been led to believe you are is a farce. made up make believe meant to keep you in a group that is different from others even though you are exactly the same. Hence comes the term "wake up"
Maybe it also could've been the employee asked her name, could'nt understand her and so as not to have to repeatedly ask the employee just wrote that in the name section. Different races call each other racists names and thats prefectly fine and acceptable. EX: balck people calling each other @!$%#. Thats not racist, but let a white, hispanic, asia etc.. call a black person that and all hell breaks loose. I'm so tired of hearing the slavery complaint. People ought to look up history. Blacks in Africa were selling each other into slavery long before Americans took up the practice. And yes,this is fact. Look it up.
I used to work for Papa Johns when I was in college. Sometimes when you ask for a name, they just ignore you. Or they don't speak English very well, so you don't know what they said. Or they're plain out rude to you. At least once a day we'd put "Guy" or "Short hair" since the person wouldn't give up their name.
That being said, this employee either did it out of anger or stupidity, since there's a box you can put such comments without the customer seeing it on a receipt.
I don't think its too unreasonable that he lost his job over this. It sends a firmer message to someone that they can't get away with unprofessional attitudes, even at a minimum wage job. But I would have been okay with him keeping the job too.
So if an employee put "ugly fat kid" or "buck tooth" on a receipt he/she gave to your child, you'd be ok with it?
How about giving your elderly parent a receipt that says "half dead looking geezer"?
People just love to defend stupidity.
I don't think the lady should be able to sue, however she should receive at least a month's worth of free food.
The kid SHOULD be fired. It's a learning experience he/she won't forget.
There are many out of work people(who know how to treat customers with respect) who can fill the position.
Joseph,
your wrong, the honky get the bill.
Why are people such damned ninnies nowdays?
First of all, I believe half of what I see and nothing of what I hear. The so-called media just loves to jump on stories like this without bothering with the facts.
Then the people involved get on twitter, or whatever stupid means they use, and tell the whole world their side of the story. I guess they want their "15 minutes of fame".
Back when I was a kid, if someone called you a name, you punched them out. End of story. They didn't have to make a public apology and go to "sensitivity training."
Why not just try "ma'am, or miss, I didn't get your name". The problem isn't whether the employee KNEW the name or not. It is whether the employee has any MANNERS or respect for others or not. I hate to admit it, but I agree with Blake up there. The kids are BRATS these days. They are taught that they are the only thing that matters and they act that way.
I don't think it's just an oriental problem. I think that's all we're hearing, but I bet there are other nationalities getting the same treatment, and like myself, may not ever even read the receipt.
Personally, I hope all these brat-making parents get a good eye-opening when their kids grow up and spit on them. The generations to come are going to get worse and worse, as these "brats" reproduce.
i need to ask this. what is racist about "lady chink eyes". it doesnt even make sense using the words "chink" and "eyes" together. the proper racial slur would be "lady slant eyes". then you would be talking about a racial feature. even using the word "lady" makes it pretty funny, even absurb have you. if he were to just use the word "chink" then that could be construed as racist but hey white folks get called all kinds racial names but no one cares bout that right.
while the company should have reprimanded or fired the employee, they have no reason to offer an apology besides C.Y.A. the "lady chink eyes" deserves no compensation due to no loss on her part. if we could all sue over words, well hell i think we do that already. so all hope is lost because no one has any "balls" anymore.
So it's just a bunch of words, and everybody should just lighten up..... Ok, when a blond, blue-eyed person orders something, maybe the receipt should show that "Mr. Nazi" or "Hitler Youth" or "Waffen SS" ordered the food.
Hey, it's just a bunch of words, you blond blue-eyed folks really need to just lighten up.............
The first post on this thread states "totally unacceptable"! The company agreed. So how did the media get hold of this tantalizing, squabble driving, racially charged headline? Just lucky, I guess.
Although the comment was unacceptable, it would seem that there is some lack of employee training involved here. Perhaps the kid (was it a "kid"?) had heard the manager make racial slurs and assumed this would be considered funny. I would have given the employee a stern warning and then run the entire crew at that particular Papa's through a "what not to say" and "unacceptable behavior" training session.
Anyone saying THAT probably just wants the accusation of being a 'racist' to come to an end, more than likely because they hear it a lot.
Bigotry is not nearly as easy to ignore for the targets.
KennethC was a little ranty, but I have to agree with him. We have become obnoxiously petty, thin skinned, and egocentric in the USSA today. Yet we have totally lost perspective on what matters.
I have a man in my neighborhood who has appointed himself as the neighborhood dog turd policeman. He will self righteously accost anyone who dares allow their animal to defecate within the city easement (that's not illegal in my city ...... yet). He really doesn't care if he alienates them, as long as he gets to pound them over the head with his verbal dog turd hammer. But he hasn't written a single letter to his congressman protesting the RAPE of his children's future by a 15 TRILLION dollar federal debt amassed by the corrupt professional politicians on BOTH sides of the fence. Nope, his sights are dutifully affixed upon a dog turd (I wonder if he's ever heard the adage "$hit happens"?). Nor does it seem to strike his limited cognition that when the economy collapses (which is inevitable at this point), neighbors could easily be all that stands between life and death. Is he too stupid to see it?too afraid to face it? too cowardly to speak to it? too selfish to give a damn as long as he has a rib eye, a porn site, and a city council to biotch at today(to be a legend in his own mind?)?
The lkand of the free and the home of the brave has become the land of the indoctrinated and the land of the coddled. We're a whole country full of politically correct dog turd cops here. It's absolutely sickening to me. You all deserve the tyranny that you're getting.
hahahaaaaa...chinky eyes....love it....haaaahaaaaaa
I feel so deprived and left out. I've been on the look out for an opportunity to be offended for days. No luck. How come the minorities get all of the chances to be indignant and make money because someone says something that they can be offended by?
I am a white, christian male, who's ancestors came from a country north of England. Please, someone call me a cracker, a honky, a mick, a paddy. I don't want to miss out. I need something to b#@&h about.
Bloody Mick...
There- feel better?
These acts are premeditatedly raacist in nature imo. If this employee could not remember or spell the customer's name then he could have asked her to repeat her name or to spell her name period.
It is not the first time this sort of behaviour has occurred. Last year an employee or two at another store - it may have been Walmart- made racist comments over the sound system for all to hear.
But what are we to expect when this sort of nastiness is demonstrated even more so these days by supposedly educated people like ministers/polititians in public places, whether in stump speeches on the campaign trail, to in polititical debates, or in the pulpit, in print and other media like in e-mails and Twitter?
Then when called on it these folks' excuse is always the same thing...that it was a joke or their utterance was taken out of context or mis-interpreted. If it was supposed to be funny and not the person or persons being racially motivated and offensive...why is it that no one with a modicum of self respect, proper manners or sensitivity is laughing?
It is even done on these message boards. If it is not some ignorant twat dissing the President of the USA and Mrs Obama and their children with the name calling, birtherism etc, it is presidential candidates making negative blanket statements about a whole group of people -usually about minorities or the poor or folks of a lower socio-economic status. See Gingrigh, Bachmann, Paul, Cain etc.
To those who have tried to blame the victim or to try to pretend/say that what occurred was funny or suggest that the employee was young or whatev thus the behaviour should be excused because the person did not know better is only encouraging this demonstration of blatant insensitivity and intolerance imo.
As long as we keep excusing this sort of behaviour because of the person's youth then we are as guilt of these sort of insensitive/racist acts as the 'youth' who committed the offense.
As long as we keep excusing or tolerating this sort of behaviour because the person may be a political candidate on the stump/debate etc 'in the heat if battle' so to speak, then we are as guilty of racial insensitivity or prejudice as the person or persons who expressed or displayed this nastiness.
By the way the world is watching how we deal or treat each other, and will also show us the same sort of disrespect and insensitivity as we show to each other.
It seems that we in the USA have this unerring ability to show our 'exceptionalism' as exceptionally ignorant, insensitive, racist, prejudiced, intolerant bores....don't we.....
BZe1, what you said is so true. Thank you.
I thought about that, but I respectfully disagree. Being a wordsmith as well, I posit that the word is 'unexcepTIONable' and not 'unexceptable'. My reference (and I don't use a computer dictionary) is Webster's Third New International.
Di DI Read it again, very slowly, then think a bit about our society as a whole, it's not a far fetch rant I have woven above, and if you can't get that read D_Loominator, he understood what I was saying.
We need to all open our eye's to the big picture, what people forget sticks and stones, It was a word, " Chinky!"
WHO GIVES A $HIT, grow up, there are far more pressing things going on in the universe than this pussy of a person who couldn't stick up for him or herself by telling the manager that she or he should teach their employees how to deal with the public, and also she should have embarrassed the employee by over toning her voice in disapproval of what he or she did.
If that took place there would be less and less lawsuits taking place, and less whiny people in this country, this is what happens when we put POLITICAL CORRECTNESS ahead of COMMON SENSE. WHAT YOU GET IS STUPIDITY, and hence yes, the current country we live in. If you can't stick up for yourself, and all you do is do this stupid a$$ tweet bull$hit well you know what, one day it's going to nip all of you that just don't get that, and it's going to be a rough ride for you when it does.
Open yours eye's people " Chinky" Jesus Christ , with children starving in the world, and Iran acting like idiots, and the world economy in the $hitter, all of you are all caught up on a fu*ken word like "chinky". You all need a life change, maybe we need a nuclear war, or a biological disaster or something devastating, then maybe none of you would be so caught up on, "Political correct bull$hit as this.
What should happen is this person that couldn't handle " CHINKY" , should have his or her a$$ summarily kicked, just for being a pussy for not taking charge of the situation there and then.
Like I said above, Nothing in this country but, pussies, and lawyer calling pukes, with $$$ on the mind in hopes of grabbing a lottery moment.
We all deserve a hell on earth, we are so caught up in ourselves we never see the bigger picture.
Its amazing the crap that people type when they think it can't be track back to them....
Kent... Your day has long passed.
@The Quacked one
"So it's just a bunch of words, and everybody should just lighten up..... Ok, when a blond, blue-eyed person orders something, maybe the receipt should show that "Mr. Nazi" or "Hitler Youth" or "Waffen SS" ordered the food.
Hey, it's just a bunch of words, you blond blue-eyed folks really need to just lighten up............."
I was ready to blow until I kept reading and picked up on your sarcasm! I agree --- just words no big deal. Like in the '30s when some guy named Adolf was ranting in local pubs and speaking of a "master race" or something like that?? Nothing came of those words so why worry?
Good post.
Lin Nil you are welcome..... cheers/peace......
Kenneth,... @ #1.75..... the saying 'stick and stones may break my bones' should end with 'but words last forever in one's memory.
Broken bones heal, while a broken spirit or a broken self-esteem does not heal as easily and in some cases may never heal. Hurt feelings come back to haunt people no matter what folks may try to state or believe.
We communicate with each other with words and although the next person using a specific word -probably in all innocence - can trigger a negative reaction in the person or persons who were subjected to this insensitivity and ignorance or who were poorly treated under even different circumstance at an earlier time and place.
Oh one other thing.... racism comes about when we use a negative feeling/views or prejudice, dislike and intolerance that we may have against one or two persons of another racial group and then use those feelings, views and intolerance to bash, beatup on, slam, slander, accuse, diminish, disrespect, negatively paint/describe and deny the worth/human-ness of allllll persons/ people of that racial group.
By the way not everyone is into confrontation as you and some of your ilk are, especially in this day and age of concealed carry and trigger tempers.
Perhaps these minorities know that if they should address the matter then, there is the distinct liklihood of the matter escalating and as things often goes, the minority is the one who is often times not going to be believed and could /will be either locked up (while they try to prove their citizenship/legal status) for disturbing the peace etc.... or may/could even be killed.
So it is better to quietly and freely walk away and live to fight another day...loudly... via social media imo. LOL
BZe1 - you are obviously not as sensitive as you would have us think. Otherwise, you wouldn't be YELLING AT EVERYBODY ON THIS BOARD! So typical of the politically correct crowd. Filled with self serving self righteous indignation ..... and hypocrisy.
lmao poor woman got called a bad word.Its just horrible.I bet the pain and suffering for this is in the millions,i dont know how she is able to live day to day in such humiliation.
It's ashame really,that people get so upset of being called a name.Why should anyone care if people want to show their ignorance by throwing out stupid "ethinic" slurs,if anything you can walk away smiling knowing you just a hair up the ladder of evolution than they are.
And since the can of worms is already open,that whole ignorace thing goes double for people who use the one that is somehow only insulting if someone with lighter skins says it.
Really grow the hell up people,how can you expect the world to respect us when we get mad over a little kindergarden wordplay.
Anyone finding this unexpectable........really,wtf did that mean anyways,and every damn one of us has said something much worse about someone,so get off it already.I know in process of reading this and the comments,i prolly made a few peoples dead relatives roll over in their graves.Its embaressing as a culture we still give a shyte about "bad words" and "name calling"
also spelling classes should be manditory because i am to lazy to arse withe spell check :>
Whats "unacceptable?" The receipt or the kid getting fired...?
This I unfortunately have to agree with. In case you have missed the last 20 years, our rights as workers are gone. While I agree it was poor taste to use the phase, it was done from 1 employee, not a Corporate Policy. Even backwooded Hillbillies have a right to express their opinions, (Yes, Hillbillies can be found in any city, town or environment, even NYC).
Why should the employee be fired? He was amusing himself in a nonharmful way, by making his boring job a little more fun. If all you anal-retentive people could shove a lump of coal up your butts, we'd have an abundant supply of Diamonds. I am more surprised that the Federal Government hasn't stepped in and tried and convicted him of a "Hate Crime".
I would be pissed if someone did that on my receipt, but what about the employees right to Free Speech? After the anger passes, I am sure I would find it humorous if mine said "Big Fat @$$". I see a lot of people using words that are offensive, but it never seems to be "Offensive" unless it is uttered from "Whitey".
you got that right....... racism is completely the other way now.... jesse jackson running around all over the country threatening businesses, al sharpton running around race baiting..... its pitiful the way they act now... even the president is getting to be the same way with class warfare..... im sick of them all.
Trust2112 get real and read the bill of right before typing some crap next time....Free speech is right given to us that allows you the freedom to express your religious and political beliefs with out the possibility of persecution or search and seizure by the government....It in no way says you can go around throwing racial slurs or bigotry and it sure wasn't written to support such things...quite the opposite
I understand what you are saying but at this time the employee was on Papa John's time and was being paid to do their job. Remember that speech you are always given when you are first hired;"You are now a representative of this company. what you say or do will be reflection upon the company." This is why Papa John had to fire the employee because they were representing Papa John's, at the time, and not themselves, since they were working. Think of it how would you like it if you walked into a predominately minority restaurant and you received a receipt that said whitey, cracker, or even something more insultive and from reading the article she didn't complain to Papa John's, she was tweeting to friends what happen and they told friends, so on and so forth, eventually Papa John's found out. From what I understand they are still trying to get ahold of her.
trust, who the %$^# said the kis was white!!!???
@ killer - Miss Black America, negro college fund and list goes on and on.....while there may have been an (in)appropriate time for these things, when will they end?
trust2112,
How exactly was his freedom of speech rights violated? The government has done nothing to him, he has the right to scribble lady chinky eyes on any scrap of paper he wishes. However, Papa Johns certainly does not have to employ him while he does so.
and killert, " its pitiful the way they act now... even the president is getting to be the same way with class warfare..... im sick of them all." wow man, another racist comment/phrase! but I'm sure you're "just amusing yourself"! what an a$s!!!
Your right, i am sick and tired of the race baiters, sick of the president trying to stir up trouble in the black community by painting white workers as the enemy of this country, including people that have money. We are the enemy of obama and the democrat party and they show it every day. Your damn right im sick and tired of all this crap..... how would they like it if we had the KKK running around the country race baiting all the time?
Killerteam you do not have the right to degrade someone, especially if you are working for a company. My previous comment was in relation of the Trust2112's statement that was previous to his one for Killerteam. Killerteam learn to be tolerant you will find the world a pretty good place out there if you try. and excuse there was a time KKK was killing and spweing their hatred all over the south and trying to bring it in the north. People learned that it was wrong to degrade, beat and even kill someone because they weren't like you. time to grow up Killerteam and face the real world.
killerteam
"them" "they" ????????? jackasses come in all races and genders - you have just proven so.
The Bill of Rights, the Constitution, all mean NOTHING now that the NDAA(National Defense Authority Act) has been passed!!
I respecfully disagree with you on a few points. The first point is that he was amusing himself in a non-harmful way. It was harmful to his employer. If the customer was insulted enough to post her receipt online its more than likely that she will hold some level of resentment to the store/franchise thus harming their business. Secondly I don't believe that the right of free speech extends to an employee saying whatever it is that he pleases as a representative of his employer. His "free speech" was uttered towrds a customer of his employer on a receipt of his employter. As a job creator......, err small business owner myself I would have real issues if my employee's insulted my customers. I know how hard I work to developa and maintain a customer base. I certinly don't need an employe using bad judgment and offending my customers.
Lastly while I am writing this I don't recall any mention of the employee being white, black, latino or other.
Ah killerteam I hope you don't choke on your venom.
then put a leash on jesse and al... I dont have the White Persons college fund, nor do we have a White Miss America, nor do we have the White Entertainment Network, it gets a little old after a while ya know..... While its not cool to call someone "chinky eyes", some people just get a free pass now days. And like i said, if it was a black person writing that on the reciept, he would not be fired, because you know darn well that hell would be raised.
Oh, someone mentioned the president while commenting on racism. Well, guess it's appropriate since Mr. Obama demands to be recognized as an African-American (a.k.a. black) when in reality he is multi-racial and cannot legally be considered as a full fledged member of the black community. But, being the racist he is he chooses instead to ignore the FACT he is half white.
Like Halle Berry, they choose to ingore their whiteness. That way they will get invited to all of the Black Association dinners!
Well, guess what Realist.
Half white is still all black. I think it's a condition known in the South as High Yellow. Up North they are just called "spot".
@GoodTymesEnt.
If you would actually read the NDAA, you would see that none of the provisions I think you are talking about apply to American citizens, legal aliens or anyone actually arrested in the United States. If you have actually read the NDAA , then it must be the Bill of Rights or the Constitution that you have not read.
killerteam..... i agree with you on all your comments.
heheheheheheh Cheap entertainment...............some of you are just way too uptight. Wow! @trust, the coal in the rectum coming out a diamond comment is damn funny, and sadly, so true.
Killer sees problems even when they don't exist....living in the past makes for no future.
killers loudest message is his/her hate. I guess killer has never worked where they have employee handbooks....or figures he'll just deal with it when it's his turn to be fired.
For those who put down Public jobs - don't ever apply for one if you can't restrain your self. Even as a laborer we had to watch what we said - then we would get guys who worked for private contractors - they lasted about 4 months before we fired them for being stupid.
Killerteam,
How bout we put a leash on Rush Limbaugh, Jesse Helms, John McCain and that other douche bag Bill O'Reilly that wrote that stupid book Pinheads and Patriots (just to name a few) then we will call it even, eh?Hell African Americans have had leashes on them for the past 200+ years (need we bring up Willie lynch and his abominable teachings that have stuck to African Americans of color since???), but of course, closed minded people (not just Caucasians either I've learned) would not understand that unless they have been through it, so of course, they will run around complaining about how they are sick of something they have NEVER even experienced first hand...."sick of the race baiting"....haha, funny as hell.....
I find alot of the white folk in here fear that this country is not only theirs any more. It is not, get used to it.
I am surprised a Harvard grad would be so ignorant as to yell racial epithets in the store.....what ?..... Oh, I thought this horrible tragedy occurred at John Hopkins, not Papa Johns.
Hmmm. maybe it was just some kid leaving a note to himself.
Wow, that is national news .
Live; make rude comments about women in front of your wife/girlfriend and see how long she laughs. Just saying there are many shoes to walk in before you should play the Andrew Dice Clay role.
Jersey Shore mentality strikes again...learn the hard way, if they learn at all.
Live&LetLive, thanks for stopping by from time to time to act patonizing or giggle or compliment Tyler or Sally. You truly add something to the discussion.
Now go patronize other people somewhere else. please.
And have a good day.
I think you may be getting your Amendments a bit scrambled – and 1 + 4 does not equal 5. Which is to say, search and seizure is covered under the fourth amendment and not the first which covers the free speech question at issue here.
And to that issue I would have to remind you, freedom of speech is not all-inclusive. I'm sure you have heard about the Supreme Court decision on the subject: Schenk vs United States (1919)
Now, in 1919, the justices in no way could have imagined the extent of lack of integrity, and the generally disrespectful manner in which the public now treats others with such distain, nor the extent of indignation the presumed offended assumes. Neither would they have been able to envision the glee with which those same injured parties jump at the opportunity to litigate their injuries to dollar signs, no matter how slight or unintended.
Today, using many racial epithets pejoratively is considered not only racists but, in many circumstances, catalytic and inviting conflict. Thus, they could be considered as creating "… a clear and present danger that will bring about substantive evil…" That is why using racial slurs in a mean and untenable manner is considered wrong and not protected under the First Amendment.
The inability of our lawmakers to crystal ball the future is the very reason we have so many Amendments to the constitution. Likewise, we are continually 'tweaking' those Amendments to fine tune the stone tablets by which our nation is governed. The fine line in this particular case, and the reason there is a major question as to whether or not there is a valid basis for a lawsuit (which the injured party has not suggested but which has been put forth by a number of posters here), is the user's intent. Was the word intended as a slur? Was it meant to be derogatory? Was it presented in a mean spirited way? Any potential lawsuit must be able to answer yes to these questions in order to prove intent to injure on the part of the perpetrator.
On the other hand, the dismissal of the worker for the abysmally poor choice of words might have been handled a bit less aggressively. If, for instance, this worker had never been warned of any wrong-doing in the past, firing might have been extreme. Perhaps a warning might have been more appropriate. However, in the interests of global PR, Papa John's acted in the extreme to prevent any further fallout. And, as someone previously noted, this was certainly within their rights in the interests of protecting their business. All in all, it is a rather unfortunate situation and, as too often happens in our internet giddy world, has grown far beyond its true magnitude.
In other words … Really? I don't know how I would react if someone referred to me as a "red-headed mick" but I doubt I would find any outrage in it. In high school, my best friend and I thrived on instigating shock in everyone around us. She'd shout at me and call me honky and I'd yell right back calling her n----r. We can still laugh about it and could still get away with that now but I can't imagine anyone else taking those labels with any degree of aplomb.
"Decent" Society, you see, often dictates what the government does/can/should not. Integrity cannot be legislated.
MINAMEME - I agree (as I' sure does killerteam) that KKK shouldn't be running around as they did in the past. The problem here is that the pendulum has swung the other way. We now have Ebony magazine (why not "White" magazine), NAACP (why not NAAWP?), BET (Why not White People's Network?), MLK Day (there's not a national holiday dedicated to the celebration of any white man, for being white, like MLK Day is for him being BLACK). I am unemployed (thanks to the AMAZING policies of Mr. Hussein Obama) for the FIRST time in my life. I have been turned down 5 times by employers in favor of LESS QUALIFIED (yes, LESS qualified, as told me by the interviewers) minorities because they have a quota to fill.
So don't push your racism sh*t at me. I'm too intelligent to fall for it. Unlike what the effin moron in the white house thinks.
I used to tell my friends, when we were in our 20's, 'let's go get chinese eyes'. Was I being racist? hmmm? That was 20 yrs. ago. I don't think anyone gives a crap I said that then.
Gabriel, what are you talking about? Go get Chinese eyes??
Let's have a few drinks, etc..... Our eyes gots smaller as the night rolled on.
Hey, thanks for that. Never heard the expression.......and I'm glad you don't use it any longer. I'd have wondered about that one for awhile.
wow is all I can really say.
kent4659 - If you think MLK Day is just about him being black you're not just a racist, you're a STUPID racist... -__-
So if an employee put "ugly fat kid" or "buck tooth" on a receipt he/she gave to your child, you'd be ok with it?
How about giving your elderly parent a receipt that says "half dead looking geezer"?
People just love to defend stupidity.
I don't think the lady should be able to sue, however she should receive at least a month's worth of free food.
The kid SHOULD be fired. It's a learning experience he/she won't forget.
There are many out of work people(who know how to treat customers with respect) who can fill the position.
just because someone might be somewhat "intelligent", doesn't mean they aren't IGNORANT.
Bigotry is still prevalent in this country. To say it doesn't have a negative or harmful effect, or shrug off seeing it by calling it playing a "race card", is downright foolish.
No successful business run by upstanding people should want to employ somebody who treats a customer in a negative manner(unless provoked).
Writers block609- you don't think white people have ever been slaves?? Check history on that. You're wrong!
More info- white slavery:
A million or more European white christians were enslaved by muslims in North Africa from the 16th to the 18th century. Through most of the 17th century the English lost 400 sailors a year to slavers.
White children would be kidnapped from Britian shipped to America with a great number to die enroute. If not immeadiately sold when arriving some were taken further inland and sold or killed as it was expensive to feed them. This continued until the end of the civil war. A lot of whites were called "indentured servants" but in reality just slaves. Some indentured slaves were still held even after slavery ended. It said that white slaves were often treated worse than black slaves and the families were separated just the same as black families. This does'nt even touch on the white slave trade going on in 2012. Thats our SKREWD WORLD.
Let's pretend there's a grown up story here in the kiddie news...
Immediately dismantle the Department of Education for leaving every child behind. Clearly many of these posts were written with zero comprehension of the subject. What subject? Exactly.
You may call it hate or whatever from what i say, but when does it end? Why do we have to bend the rules for blacks, as in education? Why is it racist to have them take the same tests as whites, and if they cant pass the test, we have to pass them anyway? Why do they get preferential treatment in the job place with quotas? No matter where you look they get preferential treatment in todays world, and that is unfair to everyone. Passing someone in school because they cant do it does not help a black person, but lowerers the standard for him or her. Why do we need a United Negro College Fund? Why not an American College Fund? Why do we need a Black Entertainment Network? Why not a United American Network instead? Why does Obama have to stir up the black community with his remarks about the working white people, and the evil corporations, and the evil banks? Why does obama jump to the defense of his friend when he was arrested and bash the cop that arrested him before he even knew what happened? Just a lot of arrogance and racism he learned in Rev Wrights evil church of Anti Americanism and anti White rhetoric i guess. In this day and age we dont need to single out a race or religion and go out of our way to appease them like we do the muslims now in this country. A religion that their Koran proudly states that they need to kill the infidels (thats us folks) and make no friends with Jews and Christians.... instead of appeasing these people, we need to kick their asses out of the country along with obamas favorites, the illegal aliens in this country illegally.
I have not heard such silly stupidity in all my life. Some of you state that this was not a problem, but the truth it is, but we have come to the point where racial equality is really being abused. A man in college wants to have a night watching movies made by Caucasian directors with the same race as actors and everyone screams racism, yet we have film after film by African Americana's with directors and actors and it is all OK. White people have had this racial guilt slammed down their necks until they are afraid to say anything less it be looked at with someone labeling it as racist.
The truth is, my father is English with about 1/16 native American in him, and he is considered white. My wife is full Asian, and my son then is half Asian, so is he half Asian and half white, or is he just a American. Lets go further; we have a president who is half white, his dad was primarily Arab with 1/8 African Black in him, so for political expediency the president threw his mother and grandparents (who raised him) and ran as a African American, when he should have said he was a American with the blessing of being mixed with the blood of all that makes us all American. We are the melting pot.
My child plays, he did not ever see any of his friends as white, Asian or African American until he had the administrations policy of forcing this issue down on his little six year old mind.
When are we going to stop all this nonsense. The African Americans want me to pay money in reparations to them for slavery when the facts are the biggest slave owner in the 1800s was a African American (read Robert Grooms a African American Professor). I had someone tell me that I should have to pay up, and I told him it was fine as long as he paid me back (seeing that he claimed the Egyptians were African) then the amount he owed with interest for 5,000 years far outweighed what I owed him. In the end I told him we need to all go to a day care center and watch children play together and maybe we could take a lesson from them on how to get together. They do not care about such matters, they care about their friends no matter what color they are.
So instead of dividing this nation maybe we should unite as one common people, Americans, (it is so sad that Mrs Obama never felt like a American until her husband was nominated), and instead of listening to the racist rants of Farrakhan, Reverend White, the KKK, and all the other hate groups, maybe we could come together and learn from other cultures, try their foods and enjoy their hospitality, and in the end we would find out that as much as we are different we are all the same.
So lets enjoy our different diverse ancestries and cultures but realize at the same time although we are different, we are still the same in that we are Americans. And if you do not like it, then go somewhere where they will tolerate your hatred and bigotry. And for the people that are comming here and thinking they have a right as guest of this country to teach such nonsense, maybe we should tell them they are not welcome and send them on the next plane home. I beleive in free speach, but it should be used with responsibilty, not as a excuse for stupidity.
That was my point, I'm not being racist. Just asking a question. Another example would be the movie "The Jerk", think it would make it's way through the Political Correct police? Yes, the movie is offensive, but damn it is still funny to watch. How about Mel Brooks movies? A Jew making fun of Jews, how Racist he must be.
I'm just happy as hell I don't work for a prick like Papa John. And I am quite sure the employee who was fired feels the same way. Ohh, and your pizza sucks more than Little Caesars!
Very well said!!
Killerteam,
If I thought for a second you where really interested in knowing the answers to the questions that you raised I'd tell you, but you're not. You're more interested in playing the "Victim Card".
I have one question for you. Have you heard of spell check? It’s funny to read something from someone trying to trash an entire classification of people, yet have the grammatical mistakes that your paragraph had. You’re a willfully ignorant person, most of not all racist people are.
Oof, cleanup.
trust2112, robggca, To4ever, you're each suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.
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killerteam, keep it to yourself, don't smear all blacks -- or Muslims [not even sure how managed to drag them into this.] You're suspended for a week for violating #5 of the Code of Honor.
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Nicely done, Rob from Daytona. Good example of following #1:
Just another reason to avoid them. The first reason, is that they put cheddar cheese on their pizzas for extra "color".
In your fictional reality, I guess minimum wage employees at food restaurants never do stupid things?
But it's more fun to rant as if this was their company policy or something, I guess?
I worked there for years. Corporate guidelines do not call for cheddar on any non-specialty pizza. Your local manager should be fired for giving you cheddar, a more expensive cheese, in place of mozzarella. You can talk all the garbage you want about Papa John's, but where else you going to go? Especially someone with such discerning tastes. LOL
As for this article, that slur is nothing compared to some I've seen on the receipts...
They do no such thing (cheddar cheese for coloring) you have no idea what you are talking about.
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Papa John's sucks ass. Worst pizza. This kid should be glad he got fired from such a crappy poor excuse for a pizza parlor.
And yet, they could crush you and everyone you know with their wallet. For every one of you, there's 20 eating their pizza... shrug.
@Parallelcooler, Are you for real?
Papa Johns puts "cheddar cheese on their pizzas for extra "color"."
What a joke!
When will people STOP being so damned sensitive? It's getting ridiculous, all of the baby crying going on these days. It's like we are all having to walk on egg shells for fear of hurting someone's feelings. It's one thing to physically harm someone or their property while committing a hate crime. It's quite another thing when someone being ignorant opens their mouth (or types/writes) and utters a phrase or word others may find offensive. People need to grow up, grow a pair, and get over your small incidental selves.
Gotnorice - through all the bull on this vine, you said it perfectly. If employers and all managers of people could control what their entry level line, minimum wage employees say/do, we would have less headaches. And remember what Art Linkletter said - "Kids say the darndest things!". Expecting that the front line staff at a fast food/pizza store are going to behave like experienced, educated, and professional adults is not only naive, but downright CRAZY.
My wife puts makeup on her face for color.
who the hell needs that kind of harassment when they go out for dinner. and i love the total imbeciles that are suggesting she should have confronted the individual. she's a "lady", she probably has more intelligence then to confront the guy and then get pounded by the kid. i know i'm giving the points to her, because the teen is the heavy favorite. but doesn't that strike as being somewhat unamerican, you know having some balls and sticking up for the person that deserves it here in this article, which is not the employee.
Let's not forget, sometimes customers can be complete a$$e$ themselves for no other reason than ego. Couple that with a kid making minimum wage and wallah.
Haven't seen one person comment on that possible side, not that there is one, just sayin...
Treat others as you would like to be treated.
Mopar ... *voila*
People do dumb things and sometimes learn from their mistakes. Getting fired is a pretty good lesson.
I think I like this comment the most. Well reasoned.
A good talking too, a two week suspension and a formal written apology from the employee would have sufficed. Probably would have sent a better lesson to the employee who now might actually start feeling racists due to being fired. Perhaps this person has a family to support. Eveybody posting on the story of the 15 year old black girl who ranaway, got caught stealing, got picked up by ICE then deported to colombia because she gave a false name wanted her to get a 2nd chance, the family wants a lawsuit. Every poster that thought the girl should be accountable for her actions was called a racist. This employee must be white cause if the employee was any other race it would have been stated and the sentiments here would also likely be different as well.
It's a valid reason for termination. I am sure their "diversity" program doesn't teach them that.
So... lets add more regulations and more classes and more interventions and more laws to prevent this...... OR parents can teach their kids.... people can take responsibility.....Papa fired the kid, apologized and we can all move on. I have found most of their employees to be pretty good. Never a problem since they moved into the Houston Area for me at least.
OR do we want the kid flogged, hung, drawn and quartered for being stupid.....? If so, lets start with Biden and his rude remarks to the Ice Cream Shop manager(remember that?).
Parents teach their kids...hahaha...stop...you'll make me swallow my gum.
Sad that we truly have come to that feeling isn't it? No wonder the rest of the world is laughing at us.....
Only problem I have with them is the same one I have with all chain pizza shops--that stuff they sell has very little resemblance to real pizza.......
And I agree with parallelcooler, Comment#3 above: cheddar cheese does not belong on a pizza.
I think it is individual person not company. I worked for a big company in Seattle. Every year they made sure their employees took diversity class. There were 2 employees who made fun at Asian, black, not born in US thru company email for 2 years. I was one of many victims. We went to HR. Nothing was happen. Because one of them knew very high manager. Finally someone decided to go to one Asian manager. That manager acted immediately. They brough in out of town EEO personnel. It took her one week to interview all victims plus 2 racials employees. Within 2 weeks, both of them dismissed. However, a leader (a one who made all of racial comments and said she has connection with high management. She is a member of Rainier club) came back to work after one year. She acted like "see I am untouchable". Few victims decided to leave a company because they think if she was able to come back to work after one year and acted like an untouchable. They worried about their jobs. I was one of those people who left the company. This is a big company in Seattle..
if it was a black person writing on the receipt of a white person and called them a cracker, he would be promoted and given a raise. They would never ever in a million years fire a black for doing the exact same thing.... wanna put some money on it? They would have jesse jackson and al sharpton on them like a chicken on a june bug.
at least killer can make assumption+sugarcone+imagine
and its the truth
i bet u thumbs yourself up...
and what black person would use the word cracker to a whtie person? only time i heard it was talkin bout cookies, idk wtf u are dreaming about, BUT OK! haha
killerteam
Oh my God! I hope you are not U.S. military.
That's because you people think you are better than everyone else, and now the shoe is on the other foot and you don't like it.
killerteam.... you are so right my friend!!!
Beeworker,
I'm sure they brought her back because they couldn't stand you and your colleagues broken english. I had trouble getting through your comment without pulling the corners of my eyes and yelling "Ching chong dinky dow!". Good lord! Please take time and learn proper grammar and sentence structure. Chinky eyes indeed!
Killerteam, I agree with To4ever, but I'll take it two steps further: was going to write I hope you're not a US citizen, but I hope you're not a member of the human race.
blueeyedkyboy, Well, we know where you stand. You probably are from Kentucky.
Yo, Mr. Rogers. You give Fred Rogers a bad name. Ever occur to you, genius, that English is probably a second language for Beeworker?? Think before you insult someone. Wonder how well you can speak/read/write Beeworker's language?
@lmatthebeach, i am from kentucky, look at my name dumbass!!!
Funniest comment ever. Mr. Rodgers, i like your neighborhood. people need to learn to spell and speak correctly in this country. The grammar is atrocious on these boards.
Well Imatthebeach. This IS America, why should anyone have to learn any language other than English?. I can understand when a foreign person speaks in stilted language but when they write the same way they speak, That is the funniest Sh*^ i have ever seen. But to the point, english is the language of the USA, anyone coming here should learn it, not the other way around.
Dom, that would be spelled "R-O-G-E-R-S". While you're complaining about and laughing at someone's spelling/grammar, please make sure your own is absolutely accurate. It is your FIRST language, I'm assuming.
Blueeyed, you just don't get it, do you? Where do you think I got Kentucky, if not from your screen name? Point is, I have friends there, beautiful state but I wouldn't brag about it if I were you. Rather backwards in their thinking, generally, much like yourself.
Mr. Rogers,
You forgot the apostrophe at the end of the word colleagues.
mac, good spotting!! Too bad we're not allowed to call people names here because, if we were, I might call a few a-holes. lol
i'm pretty sure in a free country you can speak the language of your choice even if it upsets you. saftige pfotze.
mark scirocco,
Great post!
And just to annoy the intolerant folk I say, "Insha'Allah"!
I thought the ky in blueeyedkyboy meant that was his favorite anal lube! Thanks for clearing that up!
Scooter, :). thanks for a good laugh....you should get 100 votes for that.
Its alright to speak Ebonics in court according to our new liberal judges... every other word is muthafugga this and muthfugga that and you cant understand a word they say and that speaks as to why our education system has failed, because if you graduate from high school and cant even speak the english language properly, they should send you back where you come from.... im sorry.
scooter, it is my favorite lube.... that i use on your mom.
yikes!!!
Notice all the votes that imatthebeach gets for his racist comments.... hey, your the main reason that we all dont get along... and right along with you is scooter. You people are the main reason that when i travel to Chicago to visit, the area i visit is heavily black and i always carry a gun ( i am a permit holder) because of two attempted car jackings by blacks, and one attempted robbery by a black. Then the fun going to Aldis grocerystore up there and watching yall pack the groceries into your buggys with all sorts of goodies, steaks, cokes, tater chips, etc, then pay with your obamacard and go hop out in your Excalade. If i had not seen it multiple times, id have thought it a one time deal. Just how we have gotten this way is because of dumb libs that think we have to steal from hard working people like me, and give it to you welfare thugs that will never have a job, cause your just too lazy to work when you can collect from the tit of the democrat party in exchange for your votes.
Hmmm, I'm black and I've never committed any crime, I don't shop at Aldi and buy steaks and "tater" chips, I don't have an "obamacard" or an "Excalade"and I'm no "welfare thug", I don't belong to any "democratic party or "steal from hardworking people like you.
I surely hope you're not grouping all black people into your rant.
killer, your IQ is showing. Just as I told the abrasive and bitter Boris on another thread: I think enough people around here know me and my beliefs that you just might get a few comments if you start pulling the race card on me. Racist? What color am I? I'll bet even the posters that are used to seeing me around here don't know that.
Please stop back by and refer all of us to my "racist posts." You dummy, you don't know my race, age, gender or anything else. I'll bet your waist size is bigger than your IQ.
And have a nice day.
xxoo Beach
Killerteam,
Based on your sentence structure and grammatical errors in every post, I doubt you have a job, because you sure don't have an education. You need to be concerned about your own damn self.
Ken, thanks. I'll check back later and see if that little creep crawls out from under his rock.
Killer, come on. Please site my racist comments.........feel free to visit my accounts page and search through every darned one of them. Enjoy!
Your right ken, i dont have a job because i am retired.... i used my education to invest wisely and become a millionare..... i guess that means that i am an enemy of the democrat party and in particular, obama. You see, he hates people that have made good for themselves and likes it when you fail and rely on big government, and that is exactly how he keeps his people in the ghettos and gets their votes. Its a shame but a fact...
I saw it - I am proud of you sir, and i shake your hand, you are the very first black man that has told me he is not a democrat and came back and challanged my post. Good for you sir, and may you always be successful. Its a shame what politics are doing to this country now and unfortunately our president has promoted a lot of the class warfare going around right now. I never saw a president in my life thumb his nose at the constitution, do whatever he wants, announce his dislike for businesses that make a profit, reward unions and union workers with stimulus money, but not regular workers, demonize people that have been succesful, and then wonder why the economy has been so bad for so long... oh wait, still George Bushs fault.... He is disgraceful at the least.
killerteam
" I never saw a president in my life thumb his nose at the constitution, do whatever he wants"
Really!!???? There was this guy named George W. Bush-maybe you've heard of him-who not only trampled the Constitution but used the agreements made to adhere to the Geneva Convention to wipe his ass! Bush bailed out bankers and Obama bailed out blue-collar American workers. You say you are retired-I knew that from your first post. I keep telling my kids that all the old racists are dying off. It is a more beautiful, interesting, colorful country with every generation born. Crawl out of your hole and see. And, by the way, if you are a millionaire, why are we sending our kids to college? "Your" and "you're" are not interchangeable.
Some people regard Freedom of Speech as endless obligation.
Or to paraphrase "With great freedom comes great responsibility".
I just wonder if we need to add Amendment 2b to the Constitution: "Let no agent or agency of any State or Federal Government infringe upon the Freedom of Thought, and let all be aware that failing to exercise this Freedom in conjunction with any other Rights, written or implied herein, is at the risk of the individual."
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Freedom of speech deals exclusively with the citizen/government dynamic. It doesn't protect your job when you say something that pisses your private-sector employer off.
Just figured if we include mentioning Thinking in there, some of these knuckleheads might start doing it, preferably before speaking.
Strike 2 for Papa John's as they also did away with Coca Cola products this weekend.
STRIKE 2 - Papa Johns also did away with Coca Cola products this weekend!
That really shows they are stupid.
Hasn't seemed to affect Pizza Hut's sales, which is a Pepsi distributor and the largest pizza company in the world. I don't think Papa John's will miss your business.
eat somwhere else?
what fat person would complain about a BEVERAGE?!
Things go better with Coke!
true but coke is currently illegal, or did you mean coca cola?
So an employee having a bad day, or in a bad mood, or who felt somehow wronged by that customer (notice how nobody brings that up, if Mrs chinkey eyes was being a royal pain in the butt) acted in a manner which didn't bring physical harm to anyone but did manage to get him terminated. OK, action taken. This lady gets her 15 minutes and Big Papa will fly to Brooklyn and offer her free crappy pizzas for life.
Excellent point. With the economic downturn, customers have gotten more demanding... more rude and expect so much more for so much less while increasing wages.....More than once, I have had a customer in front of me answer their cell, tell the clerk to "hold on" and yap about who did what to who last week.....
This employee had a reason for putting that on the receipt... we should be told his version for fairness.....
Seriously?!? I bet more than anything this employee was some loser adult or an idiotic kid who did not finish high school or even get a GED. Fast food restaurants need to raise their standards back to a level that requires at least a high school diploma or GED. Though I've never experienced such overt treatment, I've had too many of my orders given to me incorrectly or I've actually had to show the employee how to count the change due to me. Gone are the days when having to look forward to working at a place no better than McDonald's was enough of a threat to get your kids to do well in school. The kids who barely finish high school have more intelligence than the person taking your order at most fast food chains.
Yea, but you take a customer service job, you're going to get a jerk once in a while. In that position, you can take it or ask the customer to leave. Being rude and a jerk back isn't good customer service or professional. Thus, the kid was fired. Maybe that was his goal...
I don't take life too seriously, so I'd find it funny. But, for every one like me, there are 99 others that get pissed. I wonder if she got a free pizza and Coke (no, wait...)?
this is not a new phenomena or anything worthy of a story. there are idiots today, and there were idiots 10 years ago, 50 years ago, 100 years ago, 1000 years ago.
they were fired, maybe they will learn, probably not - but there will always be another one to take their place.
Are you serious? I don't care what someone may have done to "deserve" this, a clerk in a resteraunt has no cause to call a customer a racial slur! If she was being a total bitch, it would have been up to the clerk to get the manager, and asked her to leave.
Yes everyone has to watch what is said with all the sensitive people now days. I remember when I was a kid and jokes meant nothing but laughs but this isn't what you call a joke. It's over lets move on the only thing left now is the lawsuit that everybody knows is coming. It wasn't poppa johns fault it was the kid who did this but Popajohns will end up paying for it with our warped society's laws. Have wonderful day, is that ok
I think he did it because she had "chinky" eyes.....
Your response is at the heart of two things occurring in this country. 1) Decline in work ethic and 2) Lack of empathy.
First, you surmise that a person working in the customer service field should discontinue being a professional if a customer gives them a difficult time? I doubt that would be your response if you were a business owner hiring employees to interact with the public. If you agree with this employee's idiotic behavior then you should never complain if you are treated badly by an employee who is having a bad day, or didn't like the way you spoke to them that day.
Last, even if this woman was an ass to that employee then why is the response immediately a racial slur? Worst yet, why would you defend anyone who would even go there. Fact is, this employee thought that they were going to get away with being an ass and got caught, and got fired. Tough economic times have nothing to do with losing our civility towards one another.
Customers have always been demanding and a bad economy has nothing to do with it. People need to go to work and suck it up like the rest of us. If you cannot work with the public then stay home. If you condone that behavior then the next time you are serviced immediately alert the employee assisting you that they are allowed to be rude and racist towards you to disperse any confusion.
Dirty South- Let me guess.....You are a teacher of some sort. I love how you bring back finishing high school or even a GED. There are many people out there that graduate or go back and get there GED yet still have no common sense. Graduating has nothing to do with this. This is about a kid who may have graduated yet was left to learn on his own because his parents did not give a damn, or better yet were scared to discipline because people just like you would turn them in because they did not discipline the exact way that you do. Parents need to teach their kids respect in the same way there parents taught them. Don't let society run how you raise your kids. I would have got my a$$ beat and would be made to apologize to all involved when I was a kid, and yet I still love my parents just as much. Oh btw.....I was a high school drop out and now manage a company of about 80 employees.....
In another scenerio, the employee could have been swamped. The ordering room nut to butt and he was using words that would help to identify a customer based on a brief visual discription so he and or others would be able to unite the customer with her pizza. This customer just actually looked and the reciept and took notice and then alerted the media.
Alright, after I first chuckled for a second (sorry, I found it a little bit humorous), I realized that this is exactly why classes like "Racial Tolerance 101" should be mandatory in American High Schools...
OR PARENTS could teach their kids the same.... why waste money on teaching MANNERS... TOLERANCE (that always was part of the Church experience) and following the rules of our society? We left Sex Ed to the Schools and look what we have.....We left Social Security up to the Gov't and look what we have.
Put the responsibility where it belongs... on the family and the individual......
I was taught by my parents to be tolerant. Why should schools be responsible for this?
BTW Duz, were you laughing because of the racial slur or because somebody got fired?
No one ever blames the parents. It's always the schools fault, or the employers fault. No, it's the parents fault for not teaching their kids. Ok, I get that both parents work full time and don't have time for their kids. At least they have that Escalade.
Church doesn't teach @!$%# about manners. Don't bring religion in this topic, its irrelevant, dumb broad.
PC509a--Don’t bring work into this. I work full time, as does my husband, and my toddler has more manners than most adults I’ve met. Even my 8 month old stops screaming when I nicely tell her to stop.
Edgar
church teaches morality and morality has everything to do with this conversation. but with that being said, I am tired of every blog turning into that discussion as well. so I respectfully disagree and agree.
I'd home school my kid if they added Diversity 101, when they don't even have enough room for all the necessary math and science courses. If I want my kids to hate Mexicans, they'll hate Mexicans. There's nothing you or the government can do about it. I can pull off propaganda in the home just as well as the government can over public channels.
You are on to something, but I agree with some others that it goes way beyond teaching things in school. Now, of course as parents we know that no matter what we teach at times children will be rude, do stupid things. Of course its not clear if this employee was a child. But assuming that. Also, instead of racial sensitivity classes, lets just have classes on civility. Lets call it Civility 101 for all levels of education and beyond. I think we must first learn how to be respectful towards one another before we can even broach being empathetic towards someone because their race is different from ours.
No it shouldn't be, I hope you were stating that just to see if you could get a reaction from everyone. People need to take responsibility for themselves and their kids not the government. We used to have children start school in 1st grade (6yrs old), then kindergarten (5yrs old) was added, then it was PreK (age 4), now we have headstart/surestart (age 3). Pretty soon we'll be giving birth and handing our kids over immediately for indoctrination on merly memorizing what they are told and not doing any critical thinking for themselves as is becoming popular in school. Seriously people stop just breeding and start raising your kids! Its pure laziness. Kids are not always easy if you are not willing to do the work, then don't have them. As a culture we have become oblivious to each other, we need to get back to the way it use to be. If a neighbor saw your kid doing something wrong they told the kid to stop and the kid stopped because they knew their parents were going to find out and they were going to get in trouble. Now everyone is afraid to say anything because the parents will be defensive and say, "not my kid, my kid would never do that!" sorry but your kids aren't perfect, they are still learning. Which is why they are suppose to have adults to teach and guide them and get on to them when they are doing wrong things. There is a saying, "it takes a village to raise a child", we have forgotten that. My son's teachers actually have told me how refreshing it is that when they tell me my son or sons has done something I actually take the teacher side and set up disciplinary action depending on what they have done and how bad it was. They know that I know the teacher and check with her at least once a week (usually when I picked them up I make sure to ask her how things are going and she either says they are doing good or this happened and I tell her thank you for telling me) to see how they are behaving and doing and they know there are consequences as well as rewards in life. The teacher usually only has to say, I will be speaking to your mom today if they do start to give her problems and yes I am a very very busy parent with other things going on but I make the time because my kids are my most precious gifts in life and I am responsible for how they turn out as ADULTS! as productive members of society! Parents though usually take their kids side and blame the teachers so the kids know they can get away with crap. That goes true in public too, if you see a kid doing something wrong tell them to stop, don't just put your blinders on and keep walking, no wonder kids think they can do whatever they want. Tell their parents what they are doing, people need to be held accountable by their fellow members in society not the government. Also, if someone tells you that your kid is doing something wrong be able to accept it, don't yell at the messenger rather instead, thank them for having eyes out on your kid when you couldn't, then take the time to talk to your kid and find out why they did what they did if they know its wrong and why, what they need to work on, if it is continuous then what the punishment will be if they don't stop. Kids need guidelines, structure, and consequences. This needs to be done or our society will continue to just get worse and worse.
Alicia, you are absolutely right and thanks for taking the time to say it. Seems that nowadays, schools not only need to teach the basics of the alphabet and numbers to children, but also need to teach character-building skills such as "do not lie, cheat, steal, or litter" and respect your elders -- morals that used to be taught at home by parents. I was appalled to realize when my own kids started school, how many of their little classmates had never heard of these basic rules of life.
It's the parents place to "SHOW" their kids how to act in public. Regardless of whether it's at school or at work, it's still a public setting and how you were raised by your parents shows. The school teachers place in a childs life is to teach, a parents is to lead by example, and correct wrong doing. I was raised on a farm and my father had quite a few blacks work for him. IF he EVER heard one of the 4 of us kids be disrespectful to one of them he would have beat us until we could not set down. I didn't then and 48 years later would never call someone a name for fear my dad would come back from the grave to beat my butt. I'm just saying......
what a bad thing for a child to do on probably the first job they ever had, but like the post above states @ED 6.1 I bet she got the right order. As a young employee maybe instead of termination why not let them formally apologize and then give every Papa John Pizza employee sensitivity training on what and how to do this correctly and not how everyone else does it. Do you think they came up with that idea on their own? probally was taught by the 18yo shift manager and they still have a job
Great way to blame everybody but the employee... poor little guy... it couldn't possibly be his fault......THAT has become the American way... we learned it from our current President..... "it's not MY fault."
Paul
You really want to blame this on Obama? Really??? Go back to Fox News. You might miss something.
Actually, this employee benefitted greatly. They are learning that there are consequences to actions. Too often nowadays, kids aren't learning that until it's too late. OK, he got fired from his first job. He'll remember in the future.
This is the beauty of the service-sector economy. Do you think that kid gives a rat's ass about his minimum wage job? He'll have another one in 24 hours... probably 2 doors down in the strip mall. There's a certain freedom to being paid peanuts...
What Paul just said is the absolute truth. Everyone has learned the blame game from that kid all the way up the line to our president. That comment includes Obama, but not putting specific blame on him. We would need a whole forum just for that.
Spud, aptly named, potato head. he did not blame it on Obama. In his opinion, it is " like " Obama, " it's not my fault". After 3 years, that wore off a long time ago. not getting my vote this time. hey, everyone, ask yourself if you ( and the country) are any better off than you were 3 years ago.
Since this is about race stuff, can someone tell me why Obama ( who is more white than black: Caucasian genes are dominant), is considered a black man by the black community, and a black man by the white community. Seems to me racism is much more rampant than people and the media like to admit. I don't like Obama because he is totally inept as a leader, and has done nothing to elevate this country, financially, or morally, not because he is Mulatto
@ Paul. You had me up until the President Obama comment. First of all, if children are learning to "blame everyone but themselves" then I suggest you read or re-read George Bush's latest book, and while you are doing that rehash the entire 8 years of his presidency. Further, this disucssion has nothing to do with President Obama, or politics at all. Its about a jerk who got fired. There is nothing to defend there, but since you opened the gate. Your response was typical Republican fodder. Blame Obama for all that is wrong with the world. The day any of you come with an intelligent response to anything regarding Obama it will be a good one.
as i have been told if you dont like obama its becasue your a rasist not becasue you dont agree with the way he runs teh country. Anything negitive said about abama its becasue he is black. I am so sick of this So I am rasist becase i cant stand this president so then what do you call the people that hate Bush if you use teh same way of thinking people that dont like bush must hate white old men or maybe because he was in teh military are they not also rasist then?
Also to add to this we have black history month scolorships for every race but the white person no one protest this or fights this but have a white only school (the black do) or scholerhips for white people only and see what happens. if racism is any where now days its against the white person esp mailes and fat people that are white but no one protest this do they
oldman young eyes,
You say Obama is more white than black? Caucasian genes are dominant?
Your post is nonsense.
And your use of the word "mulatto" is not only antiquated, but also meant to be insulting.
You are a closet racist. Come on out and own up to it like a man.
Silverton
I cannot keep up with what is insulting and what isn't when it comes to "may I say "African American" Its even in the dictionary as being of mixed ancestory of caucasion and African American. What is politically correct today? Seriously, what is acceptable today will get you arrested for a hate crime tomorrow.
Cary-1735407
Education. Try it. Not one dam thing you said made sense. You're pathetic. Because of your ignorance, I will try and educate you. First of all, for anyone, and I mean all the other idiots posting to this story too, if every topic discussed has a way for you to bring the President into it, you have an issue. Racist issue or not, you're angry. A topic can be discussed about how deer are mating too early in the year and somehow, you idiots will find the President in that dicussion. PATHETIC!
as far as black hist. month, BET, black schools and such, white America has control of about 95% of every other aspect in this country. What the hell else do you want ya greedy s.o.b? BLACK HISTORY is why you are the majority, demented fool. This country was built off the backs of slaves blood, sweat, tears and lives, self centered ass! Why do you think the white majority have always and always will be ahead? 500 plus years of free labor wiould help any country to get ahead.
That's why those minor tokens are put into place scum bag, so the minority might have a chance to dream to get there too. Racism have not been reversed nor have it went anywhere. If you still feel "oppressed", blame your ancestors. They raped, stole and killed nations of people to get us where "WE" are today. Yes, the President is black. Deal with it! One out of 44 is not so bad, right?
Paul, good point and well taken.
I, too, get tired of trying to fumble for the current politically correct terms of many things.
The point I was really trying to make was that the poster's comments appear to be cloaked racism.
oldman young eyes - caucasion genes are more dominant??? Why does he look so black then?? There are many full blacks that are much lighter in complexion to him. He is darker than any tan I've ever seen on any white person and he has kinky hair...
silverton-- Where the hell do we find the freakin' book that tells us what words are racist, out dated and now racist and so on. Black people I know have used the word "mulatto". Sick and tired of having to watch every word and even every opinion. Any body read the story about the 15 year old than ran, got arrested for stealing, Lied about her name and even about being an American. Then got deported to Colombia when the fake name turned out to be false? Because I expressed the opinion that this girl needed to take responsibilty for her actions I was called numerous names including racist. Yet on this post this employee is taken to task called racist etc.. HE did not steal or lie to the government but he should be fired andsome have expressed a lot worse towards this person. Seems like the ones calling out racist the most are the ones who actually are. Check history of the world blaacks were enslaving blacks in North Africa long before Americans enslaved them. Also there is a long histroy of white slavery in American and abroad. Look it up!!
negro - racist
mulatto - racist
colored - racist
just what the heck do ya wanna be called then?
killerteam and skrewdworld,
I cannot speak for African Americans or those of mixed race, since I am Caucasian, and as I said above, I get weary of fumbling with politically correct terms that are constantly changing as well. But, I do try to show respect.
No need for anger here.
It is kinda' funny (I've called people worse). And likely, the woman was a jerk to someone at some point there, however, the comment was in bad taste and lacking customer service. Lesson learned (hopefully)
No, it is NOT kinda funny. It is ignorant, rude, and RACIST!!!
It was a little funny, you and everyone else need to stop blowing this way out of proportion. AND the "comment" was based on a factual truth, so atleast he wasent lieing. lol your too funny getting this upset over something as insignifical as this.
Did she order a rarge pizza with extra mozzarerra cheese?
How dare you corrapse my comment!
Actually she ordered a Chop Suey pizza with extra cat......... sorta chinky aint it?
Same thing happened to us with T mobile. There was a problem where someone ordered a phone & did a bunch of other things on our account & the CSR tried to give us a hard time about it. It was fraud & we wasnt in a good mood about it to begin with. We chewed his ass out & when we called back to follow up on what had been done the next rep read the account notes & mumbled "Oh yeah thats real classy". The previous rep had all ready left/been fired & we could not get t-mobile to repeat the derogotory note left by the previous person. Yeah we would have sued t mobile if we could have gotten our hands on that nasty little note left. But since it came from their internal computer system & never got printed out they destroyed the evidence I assume.
So you chewed someone's ass out who was not responsible for your problem and want to sue T-mobile because they left an unflattering remark in the notes about you? OK. Do you even know what it said? Working with inconsiderate customers is a pain in the ass. Have you ever been on the receiving end of an idiot that wants to blame you for everything bad that has ever occured to them? Yeah, sue 'em. Sheesh!
"What you talkin' bout, Willis?"
Do you truly believe T-Mobile owes you restitution for something you "believe" existed but never saw? Maybe you should look up your old high school bully and sue him/her and while your at it sue the school. Maybe this will help make you feel better about yourself.
For all you know, he was saying "That's classy" about something you had said.
Typical entitlement baby. I wish they'd given you a transcript of the account, so you could find out in a heartbeat you wouldn't get a single dime from T-mobile. You'd of actually lost money after you paid the court costs on your frivolous lawsuit. They could call you a "phucking azzwipe" on the phone, own up to it in court and they still wouldn't owe you a penny. It's not against the law, and you always have the option of leaving your contract after paying them the ETF. Welcome to capitalism.
So the can call you a @!$%#ing asswipe?? Really?? what are we even discussing this story for if thats the case. IT msut not be against the law to casll some body chinky eyed lady then.Right?
maybe they were referring to the ways your eyes look while your sitting on the toilet in the middle of the night after eating their pizza.
Wait, so it’s okay for a national media source to type the word “chinky” in their headline? Really? There was no other way to word that one? Way to go MSNBC.
I admit it, I laughed when I saw the receipt. Hell, I’d probably laugh if someone wrote “dumb bitch” on my receipt at Papa Johns, but I’m awesome like that.
We're... we're just awesome like that.
According to your name I’m also happy. Happy and awesome. Winning!
LOL
I dont think i have ever heard of someone being in Manhattan and going to a FRANCHISE pizza restaurant. That is what is unbelievable about this story.
New York pizza sucks. If your pizza was actually any good, YOU'd have all the national chains. You have Pizza Hut, then the other best pizzas in the country... from Detroit. That soggy doughed, nasty ass sauce garbage you call pizza could never make it in the big leagues. For all the hype blowing in the wind about New York and Chicago, it's the city in-between that runs the entire industry. You arrogant, blow-hards crack the rest of us up. You're the butt of the joke, and you don't even know it.
Just because Detroit mass produces sh!t pizza like it does sh!t cars doesn't mean your the model of the industry. Dork.
Really Pizza Hut...the best? Is this serious? What are you 14 and obese?
Toss are you serious? Where do you live? Manhattan is full of franchises and full of different people who don't know the difference between good pizza and bad. I live in NYC and would say NY pizza by far is better than any other pizza in the states. All pizza shops are not created equal. If its ran by real italians and I'm talking real it's going to be real good. If it's made by the chinky eye ladys brother wide eye'd man probably not so good. You want real italian pizza you gotta take a trip to Brooklyn NY.
Pizza Hut is just a pile of greasy nasty sh!t.
It's funny. Don't get so pc.
Funny for you perhaps. If your check read dumb fat hoe would it still be funny?
If my check read dumb fat ho', I'd tell them I'm not dumb and walk out...
hahahaha ur gay! good one!
Um maybe she was just stoned and they identified her by her appearance ... o come on you have heard the saying "chink eyed" to say someone is really high .... just sayin....
hahhaha good point!
It's a "copy cat," thing. Not too long ago, another restaurant cashier did the same thing to two customers.
Boycott Papa Murphys!!
Chinese food is better anyway.
If you like dogs and cats Chinese food is better. Have you ever noticed there are no stray dogs or cats around Chinese restaurants?
yeah, but its still the best..... make sure when you go into these restaurants that you ask if the Cat is fresh... dog is not bad, nor monkey...... it all depends on what you like
its papa johns dumb ass
inbill, Just a thought, You call The Real Slim K a dumb ass, what's the diffrence in what this Papa John's employee did. Your all very rude to each other. There is REALLY no reason to call someone a name just because you don't agree with them. SO CHILDISH!!
I seem to recall another incident not to long ago where an employee at a fast food chain wrote the same exact thing on a receipt.
Chick-Fil-A
Not long ago it happened here in Sacramento at a fast food joint and the two clerks were immediately terminated as they should have been. If you want to be a racist peckerwood out and about and get your a$$ beat go for it cracker! If you are at work, you are the face of your employer andyou do NOT have the right to besmirch their hard earned reputation. Papa John's may not be the best pizzaor company to work for but only the owner has the right to ruin his company's reputation, whatever that reputation may be.
so what. people are so damn touchy now days.
And if the cashier had entered, "N*gger haired boy" that would be OK, too?
This depends. Was the cashier black? Well yes, of course that'd be OK!
Was he/she white? No? Stab!
You just call them N*gger. When describing their hair, you say Nappy... Nappy...
What does chinky eyes have to do with anything?! It was just a way of keeping track of what the heck order was whose. Any way, the employee should not have been "dismissed." This was an excellent opportunity to learn!
Organizations can effectively learn from their mistakes when management and employees accept that mistakes have been made and that opportunities for improvement exist. If personnel begin by denying an error has occurred or downplay its significance, then they miss out on taking full advantage of opportunities to learn and improve. By identifying problems with procedures, processes, and programs, in addition to recognizing human errors, an organization can move away from placing blame and move toward understanding, learning, improving, and preventing future events.
Further more, as far as political correctness is concerned, get over it lady. Besides Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
And that's all I have to say about that.
I like how you think, Wagon Man. There was a greasy spoon restaurant I inhabited in college. They gave out nicknames to some regulars and woulld call out names when the food was ready. My name was Freckles. Others I recall were PooBear, Ichabod, Turkey (because that's what he usually ate), and Chatterbox (a quiet guy). We weren't offended, just amused. Another thing, did she or did she not have "chinky" eyes? That was probably a realistic appraisal to help id the customer..a bad decision, yes, but maybe the kind of offense to keep you from buying pizza there ever again, not something to get all lathered up and contact the politically correct machine that is the MSM. Get over it, move on...
Well Amen to that, good sir. I use to work at Applebee's and I gave nicknames to the cooks, because well, why the hell not? I called one guy Donavan because he looked like Donavan McNabb, I called another guy Cracker (he was black) because he liked to smoke crack, I called another guy John because the story was he had a very long pointer just like John Holmes, I called another guy Poindexter because he was a straight up dumbass, I called another guy Fatty because he was fat, and lastly I called my boss an @!$%# because that's what he was. What's the big deal here? The woman had chinky eyes... good way to remember her! I mean, really!
Chris - How did you know how long the guy's pointer was?
As I said, that was the story. People slept around in that place and there weren't very many secrets.
The comment on the receipt is despicable, however, this is not national news worthy. Just more fluff. And yes, the kid should be fired and maybe learn a lesson that way. Respect people.
The term despicable should only be used when talking about Jews.
Please, please tell me that was your attempt at some kind of ridiculous joke...
urgay=troll.
Ignore.
Am I the only one who thinks this was hilarious? I mean it may be "Racist" but it's in no way harmful, and for all we know the customer may have done something to incite this upon herself.
I find it funny. I also agree with a previous comment that if you’re in NYC why on earth would you go to Papa Johns for a slice?!
Didn't see that one! xD Brings up a great point. :P
Do I get an apology if someone puts "short, old, and fat" on my receipt?
No you are fair game in this world of PC for all food groups except old slow white guys...you are the problem you know
You white trash honkeys better realize that if you use a racial slur you will get fired. Have fun on the unemployment line in this economy cracker!
RB - Welfare boy, you don't have to worry about a job when your intelligent and NOT lazy. You probably cannot relate, BOOGER.
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So sick of people over reacting...then companies over compensating.
Get a grip people...and it's not even that they are really offended as much as it is to pass go and collect an easy 200 dollars...it's so obvious.
This was a racist remark in everyway. All patrons should be treated with the utmost respect. This is a business, not one of your friends. People now days have a lot to learn about Respect. I'm glad the employee was fired. Now maybe they should hold classes when they start work there on etiquette.
@reginald brown..... all us honkeys will be standing in the welfare line right behind your whole lazy ass family that probably never have worked a day in their lives.
I don't think the kid did anything wrong. He didn't have the name so he used a description. Chink means a narrow opening. He could of said a woman with narrow eyes but would that have been OK? Some people are so sensitive jeesh! What if he said short haired woman with mustache? LOl, he didn't commit a crime nor was it really racial. He definitely is not the smartest person for what he did.
By the way, what's a white trash honkey? Reginald Brown<<<you gotta love your name. Hey look your name is brown you are probably African American. Now what if your receipt said brown guy, would that be an issue? "John that receipt wasn't for the chinky eye lady, it was for the brown guy what's his name?? Mr. Brown. What a coincidence.
I personally think people pull the race card all too much. The truth is we are all one race, The Human Race! The word race is obsolete today. The past is the past people if you keep looking back, you are never going to move forward. Negative things and people are all around us and so don't fall into its evil trap called misery. It can ruin your precious 24hr day if you get to live the whole day. Stay focused, be positive and who gives a f___K what someone thinks about you or your race!
This is absolutely ridiculous. It's a good thing that punk kid got dismissed. Everyone is saying we need to lighten up. That may be true if this took place at a comedy club, where it is possible that such a thing could be said. However, this woman simply wanted to buy a pizza, and did not expect such treatment. The word "Chink," is a racial slur directed toward those of Asian ancestry. If he didn't have a name, he could've just written on the receipt, "Asian Lady." Why does he have to right a racial slur. Some people might not find the word "Chink" to be offensive, but some definitely do. Does one HAVE to say racial slurs in today's society?
You may feel different. But don't tell others what to feel.
Oh, so that's how it is. Using a racist term against minorities is perfectly okay to you, but when Reginald uses a racist term against whites, you closet KKK members pounce on him for attacking whites. Racism works both ways you know.
Will- This is America the land with all different type ethnicity. Is it right to do what he did? He really didn't do anything. Look up chink in the dictionary. It's not racial. The deal here is that we are all made to believe it is. People point people out by there looks. I'm sure you heard the saying, "don't judge a book by its cover" plenty of times and that was created because humans have a tendency of doing that. Is it right? Who says its wrong? I'm saying, don't focus on negativity but on positivity. That's just energy wasted. The world is filled with all walks of life and all different but we are all one.
Well, the way I see it, he can think or say anything he wants when he is on his own time, but when he is working for and representing someone elses business, he needs to mind his manners. When his name is on the bottom of the payroll checks for his own business, he can do as he pleases. I imagine he would then have a differant attitude on how to conduct business with the public.
Danny- Overall, I agree. Under the sky, we are all one family. It just so happens, we are different. However, using the word "chink" is racial. I looked it up in the dictionary like you suggested. If you follow the link, you will find that the word "chink," is listed as a slang word, as well as offensive and disparaging.
You are correct on many of your points, but on this you are wrong. The word, "chink" is racial and offensive when used in the context that the employee intended to. You can even type the word chink into wikipedia and get a historical overview on this slur.
Will- I looked the word up before posting and I am well familiar with the word and how some people use it. I'm not saying it can't be offensive, I am saying that the kid didn't break any laws. I'm also saying that the kid is ignorant for using that term.
Danny- You're right. He didn't break any laws. However, in both you're posts you said that he didn't do anything wrong, nor was it racial. I completely disagree with you on this point. Of course it is racist to use that word. People use the word "n*ger" for blacks, "wet*acks" for latinos, and "ch*nks" for Asians. So in your opinion. Do you think the kid did anything wrong? Was it racially motivated?
Danny - You are right. Maybe the kid didn't break any laws.
However, his employer, in this case Papa Johns, still has the right to terminate his employment, or otherwise discipline him, for behaving in a manner they deem unsuitable for their employees.