unless your blind and dont see what is going on around the world, its muslims stirring up all the trouble all around the world. When is the last time you saw a Christian saw the head off of a live American?
"unless your blind and don't see what is going on around the world, its Muslims stirring up all the trouble all around the world. When is the last time you saw a Christian saw the head off of a live American?'
are you friggin kidding me? Would we allow this to happen to the Germans who started 2 world wars? Please, you can't be that naive...... Lowes you lost my business.
hmmm killer - unless you are a psychic you can't possibly know that all the hundreds of thousands of American Muslims whose lives the show is chronicling are all stirring trouble all around the world ?
Why is it so hard for you flaming idiots to understand that there are many many normal everyday folks who just happen to be muslim. They are no different from you or me ...unless of course "you" happen to be a raging racist.
Well we saw Timothy McVeigh blow up the Oklahoma state building. We rode into Iraq and Afghanistan like the crusades. Then there was Colombine. Oh yeah Virgina Tech too.
How many "Christians" end up in jail for murder, rape, etc? So if you think one group is different or special compared to another, you are wrong.
This show is not "stirring up trouble" any more than Swamp Loggers or Swamp People or whatever you call it is...Hillbilly Wedding...World's Dumbest Criminals...etc etc etc....just shows more bigotry...if they had ignored the whiners out there, none of this would be in the news.
Good for Lowes! I will make sure I shop there even more from now on.
Senator Lieu needs to be thrown out of office. After all, it was Muslim extemists that brought down the Twin Towers. I certainly don't want to watch a show about Muslims. All this show is attempting to do is numb the American people so we aren't paying attention to what they are doing in our country. They are slowly bringing Sharia Law to America. Now that is what I expect Lieu to be fighting against instead of this issue of Lowes pulling commercials from TLC's "All American Muslim". As if there is really such a thing as an all American Muslim.
I wonder if he goes to such extremes when Christians are being targeted. I have a feeling that's a big NO!
I thought the story was about an advertiser who pulled there ads from a TV show. I have never heard of or watched this show. Perhaps it has to do with ratings?????
To stereotype all Muslims as violent is small minded, hateful, unChristian and basically inhumane. There are "Christians" in Africa gang-raping, mulilating and mudering right now. The Irish Republican Army (who are made up of Christians) until recently were murdering people in terrorist acts. There are fundamentalist Christians in this country who rationalize murdering doctors who have performed abortions Etc. But I don't condemn all Christians for the acts of a few misguided people. Every religion has those who only see the hate of the "other".
Justiceforall: Yes it is true that not all Muslims are terrorists, however, 99% of the terrorist are Muslims. Get a clue.
Mdsj: Timothy McVeigh, the Colombine shooters, the VA Tech shooters - none of them committed their crimes in the name of Christianity. However, all of the recent terrorist activity throughout the world HAS been committed in the name of Islam. If you can't tell the difference between the groups, you are truly blind in your ignorance.
Steve and Bluepanther - Sure, we can all get along. Just as soon as the Muslim extremists quit trying to kill Christians and Americans!
You people need to get a clue. Like it or not, we are at war with Muslim extremists.
mdsj, how many of those killed in the name of Christianity?? That is the point I think people are trying to make here. I fully support Lowe's decision. Besides, they have the right to advertise whenever they want. They are the ones spending money on it and they are the ones who stand to gain or lose business from it. It is their choice!
It's Lowe's advertising budget. they get to spend it where they choose. I don't have a problem with them choosing not to spend it where they are only reaching less than 3% of their potential customers. Nor should they waste their money if it is upsetting their other potential customers. What's the problem?
remember who started the 911, who took over the controls and flew the planes that killed thousands of good Americans. Oh, and don't forget they killed their own that day as well.
Get along, yes they can all abide by the US way of life or get the hell out.
Blue Panther--I agree with you--BUT--IF Lowe's had chosen to no longer advertizing on "Swamp Loggers" or similar shows because they do not (or their shoppers do not) like the message such shows send, that is ABSOLUTELY their right.
Frankly, I'd also like to pressure companies to stop advertizing on stupid shows like the Kardashian 'multi-plex'.
But the fact is, the show trying to put a normal face on Muslims does NOT (conveniently) show ANY of the other side of the story--the women here who are still being forced to wear the Burkha, or are not allowed to get jobs/drive cars/get a college education BECAUSE of the religious/cultural beliefs makes it an 'apologist' show, and I do not want to give any validity to any show that ONLY shows the 'nice, fluffy side of Muslims in America. I know several families who are Muslims, and like them. But IF the Muslims in America truly want to be 'respected' here, it would go a long way toward that if they would recognize that America is NOT just a place where they can make a lot of money because of its economic opportunities, it is ALSO a place that recognizes the 'worth' of BOTH sexes.
And BTW--I feel the same way about the show 'Big Love'--only it at least does not have as its motivation a desire to convince America that off-shoots of the Mormon church should be allowed to treat women like that.
Florida pastor Terry Jones held an anti-Islam rally earlier this year outside Dearborn City Hall after being barred from protesting outside a Muslim mosque in the city. A burning of the Quran in March at Jones' church in Florida led to a series of violent protests in Afghanistan that killed more than a dozen people
That line says to me that it is CHRISTIANS who have started and stirred up the trouble that's going on amongst the religions in this country. Educate yourself beyond your backwoods pig screwing ways before you make yourself look like a moron! The 1st Ammendment protects freedom of RELIGION... I repeat RELIGION... not freedom of CHRISTIANITY!
Dumb question! If we could,the world would not be in the mess that it is in.
As for this issue and where Lowes stands on it. I may or may not agree with Lowes, but I do respect the fact that they have taken a stand and do not appear to be bowing to pressure. It is long past the time that any minority group should be able to dictate to any business, just how they do business or in this case, who they choose to sponsor and who they do not.
I have not to date watched this stupid show as I am not a fan of the so called TV reality shows. I have no plans to watch it in the future because it simply holds no interest for me. For now at least, America is still a free country and we are still free to support who we want to support (as far as TV shows go that is)and to watch a TV show or change the channel or turn off the TV entirely.
We don't have a Lowes in the town I live in. That being said, simply on the basis of this article alone, it would not effect my shopping or not shopping at Lowes if we had one. In fact it just might cause me to at least enter the store and see what they have for sale and what the prices are compared to Home Depot.
Bottom line: No one ethnic or religious group is more or less important than the other. If we are going to be careful not to offend one group and not worried about another, then we are guilty of prejudice at least at some level. I say treat them all equal. If they get offended. Tough! They can always leave for a more friendly country, if they can find one!
Keep on talking about that "First Amendment." The funny thing is that your religion does NOT BELIEVE in America's First Amendment. In Islam, there is no freedom of religion- it's either ISLAM (translation: submission), OR ELSE!
I'm not a big fan of religious doctrine and dogma from any faith. I especially don't like the fact that a religious organization can control a large corporate giant like Lowes with threats of a boycott. This is a very sad affair indeed.
wow, I like how these idiots can't think for themselves, and only join with he majority. You have a brain, and killer team, the guy who tried to kill Obama saying Obama is the anti Christ, shot at the white house, a Christian, saying he is Jesus, see if he was Muslim, people would say, O he is a terrorist wanting Mohammad to come and massacre the world, what a double standard. Their are a billion plus Muslims in the world, if we all believed in blowing ourselves up, their would be havoc in this world, which their isn't. And in Ireland, Catholics and Protestants are killing each other in the name of religion, so don't give me that bull, Only Muslims kill in the name of their religion, which a minority do. White people took the land from the Indians, wasn't that a massacre. What about Catholics priest molesting little boys, what kind of religion is that.
Which is why this show is here. If Muslims can behave like Americans, why discriminate against them? Not all immigrants resist assimilation.
If we have to target immigrants, I'd say we target those who refuse to behave like Americans. Targeting people based on their country of origin or religion is nothing short of racism. It's a blanket rule that's unfair to a very large number of people.
Unfortunately muslims will always have trouble convincing people of european ancestory they are a religion of peace. In asia islam is considered a religion of peace because it was brought on the silk road by traders peacefully. Every contact in europe between islam and the people of europe was anything but peaceful. You notice I did not say between islam and christianity because the first contacts included islam and the gothic tribes in Spain who were still pagan. Europeans of gothic heritage fought islamic invaders in Spain and Austria. Master Bob you could call the action in Norway retribution since in the first contact between Islam and the germanic peoples the moors cut off the heads of the captured goths who were not people of the book.
Many people in this country have become moronic tree hugging sheep just prime for slaughter. Open your eyes and look at it this way. The freedoms we all take for granted are being subverted by other cultures throughout the world to destroy this country's values by using our own media and taking advantage of the total ignorance of the weak minded people in this country who are always ready to believe whatever is thrown at them by our government or the media. Do you really think EVEN ONE of the many mostly Muslim countries in the world would allow a program, play, or any media production that promoted Christian values in their country? NO FRIGGIN WAY!!!! These people are using our constitution against us!! They know what they are doing and trying to accomplish....do you?
You gripe about Lowe's not allowing a television show it's right to free speech by pulling it's advertising but don't take into consideration Lowe's own rights to free speech by doing so. If they want to pull their advertising, so be it. Who cares what show it is?
I'm leaving now to shop at Lowe's. More power to them. Why would they want to advertise on a program like this one? Maybe Michael Moore can do a movie on the bad guys at Lowe's who do not financially support the Mooslims. Sounds like his kind of thing..
All you idiotic liberals dont like what Lowes is doing also dont like America. Why dont you all do us a favor and leave our country. We would be better off without the liberals and muslims. I also read that the muslims wouldnt hate us if we didnt invade them is a bunch of croc. I was overseas when muslims attacked children and other innocent people befor we attacked those suppose muslims that are loving. They hate Western countries because we dont believe in what we believe in. I support Lowes and I am glad that there are some who will not kiss the muslims rears.
So, am I right to think that all of you who support lowes, hate all muslims??? That is the jist of what I am getting, that muslims are bad people? Cant we seperate someones religion from their identity? The world is not that black and white. There are good people who call themselves christians, and good people who call themselves muslims, just as there are horrible disgusting people who call themselves each as well. Maybe you should actually try watching the show with an open mind, but you wont because people love to hate.
The big question is how can devote Muslims say they believe in "religious freedom" when they have the following dictates that must be followed to be a true Muslim: From Allah's Book of Recitations, the Qur'an
In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful ...
"O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Whoso of you makes them his friends is one of them. God guides not the people of the evildoers." 9:51
"This is the recompense of those who fight against God and His Messenger, and hasten about the earth, to do corruption there: they shall be slaughtered, or crucified, or their hands and feet shall alternately be struck off; or they shall be banished from the land. That is a degradation for them in this world; and in the world to come awaits them a mighty chastisement, except for such as repent, before you have power over them. So know you that God is All-forgiving, All-compassionate." 5:32-33
"And when Allah revealed to the angels, saying: 'I shall be with you. Give courage to the believers. I shall cast terror into the hearts of the unbelievers. Strike them above the necks, smite their finger tips!' " 8:12
"If you gain mastery of them in battle, inflict such a defeat as would terrorize them, so they would learn a lesson and be warned." 8:57
The one goal of Islam since it's founding is to in fact establish a world Islamic Theocracy.
I would have to agree. Everyone should read the article " The Myth of Peaceful, Moderate Muslims". Just type the title into the search engine. Here's a little excerpt:
In a country when Muslims are a minority, they demand more and more privileges and rights for minorities from the host country. When their number grows by birth or immigration, they want to impose Sharia rule. When they become the majority, they start bringing death and destruction to the host nation and start ethnic cleansing. This is the worst type of disloyalty and hypocrisy.
Is not this the same what Muhammad did to the early Meccans? When he was weak, he brought down verses, which were non-violent. He even uttered some verses, which praised the pagan gods (i.e. the satanic verses) to make the Meccans happy. But when he became powerful, his darker side began to emerge and the Qur’anic verses started losing their beauty. Once he conquered Mecca, he showed his true color to everyone – either convert or die by the sword.
If Lowes does not want to promote the Muslims that's Lowes perogative and proper to let them decide. The fact is the Muslim agenda is as stated in their Koran, to take over the world and force Sharia law down every ones throat. when they grow in numbers , so will their demands. in fact its already started its just a matter of time. remember to them the only good non Muslim is a dead non Muslim.
I wonder if Lowe's management took into account the lost business from people who no longer show there because they do not support this xenophobic congressman? I will not shop at Lowes instead supporting Home Despot and a local lumber yard even if I have to wait a day or so for the item.
Happy Holidays to Jews, Pagans, unbelivers, Buddhists, and the new religion to celebrate a holiday in December despite there being no evidence that Jesus was born on the 25th, Christians.
Good riddance to xenophobes, bigots and Christian fundamentalists.
I am a 12 year and running employee of Lowe's. GREAT COMPANY to work for!!
I do not want our company to advertise during a Muslim show in America or anywhere else! As a share holder in the company I am very proud that the decision was made to not advertise to these people and their sympathisers.
I am sure that those Army guys and girls at Ft. Hood in San Antonio were killed by anti muslim fanantics or Christians. Any religion that promotes violence is not a true religion from any God. I don't believe in any religion but when someone wants to kill you if you don't believe in theirs that crap!!! Go Lowes
They are using the media and the freedom against us. In Islam you could Lie to a non-Muslim and a Muslim will not give his brother up to non-Muslim too.
Epistemologist - good for you! Shop where you want, do what you want! THAT IS the American way! The very way that muslims want to subdue and defeat and, if they have their way in this country you will no longer be able to do what you want and shop where you want. People who don't like islam - the muslim religion don't like it not because they're xenophobes but because they know what the qua'ran - their holy book says. It instructs the "faithful" to kill those who will not convert. It tells husbands to beat their wives but not in the face as to not leave "evidence" of the beating. These are the people you're supporting. These are the people who killed thousands of Americans on American soil. Why don't you try moving to Afghanistan and see how "free" you can be there? And BTW there is evidence that Jesus was born on Dec 25th. The calendar then is different than the calendar we have now.
Lowe's have the right to focus their advertise in to the group they want to market their sales, this is about business and what happened is that program is about Muslims , propaganda for people that practice the Islamism , however many stockholders disagree in to put their money doing propaganda for a religion they do not profess. Nothing wrong with that , what about Muslims company advertising in a Christian Show , don't do their communities will do the same?
You, are misinformed. Timothy McVeigh, committed his act of terrorism against the American people on the anniversary of the Waco incident. He did it in an act of solidarity with the Branch Davidians and because he believed they were massacred by the Federal Government. It was as nutsy-Christian it can be.
As an aside , the VA Tech massacre was by one lone nutcase, not multiple.
Also, can you back up your claim that 99% of all terrorism is by Islamic radicals-not to say that I support Islam in any way-just that I believe your claim is false and you are simply using rhetoric to back a factually invalid argument.
help me write a song ;; ...cat piss smell'n shoper's... make me hold my nose...it's where a real man... buy's his panty hose...the Muslims said with a wink infidels shop at Lowes... til it blow's...GIT'R DUN...
I will say that i am not surprised by what i am reading on this thread from the ignorant bigots! they all sound like the Glenn Beck, Faux News scumbags! The majority of Muslims are not terrorist just like the majority Christians are not bigots you stupid bigots need to get out and travel the world sometimes and then only then you will see that you are wrong about the Islamic people and their culture. I just canceled my Lowes account today that i have had for 3 years and not by a single nail from there again.
Abolish religion and you're a third of the way there... Eliminate "money" and you're now at two thirds the distance. Then when people learn to "live the law"... Then you'll know we've made it...
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@ Bob Martinez: The Vatican and The Crown come to mind, let alone the "Clan of 13"... But even what you said is over the heads of most. ~_o
Actually USMC28 the fact is, that if you read my post above (1.41) in the first paragraph, a majority of that has already happened in England. Didn't the Pakistanis, who came to England, first start off small and then demand Sharia Law?
Are you really so blind that you don't want to see what's in front of you?
I'm glad you travel in the Islamic countries, can you read your Bible in the streets of Cairo or any other Muslim country like they do here, the answer is no. And about culture is not part of their culture the honor killing. So please don't talk about bigots.
If you were really in the Marines, and saw your brothers slaughtered by these cowards then you are the type that would cower and shake. You are a spineless excuse for a soldier.
"unless your blind and dont see what is going on around the world, its muslims stirring up all the trouble all around the world. When is the last time you saw a Christian saw the head off of a live American?"
Did you ever hear of a Muslim member of the IRA or the Tamil Tigers? How about all those abortion clinic bombers and school shooters in this country or that nut case in Norway last summer? Weren't they all "Christian"??
EVERY religion has it's nut cases, as evidenced above....
er2cc if you were in front of me i would slap the taste out of your mouth!!! who in the hell do you think you are calling me spineless, your the spineless coward. I have been to Islamic countries throughout my time of service to my country as a Hard Core Marine and from my experience the majority of Islamic people try to live a normal life just like you and i do here in America, and yes you do have some of them who are fringe extremest just like we have extremest Americans groups here. Oskar-1391552 now why would i want to walk in the streets of Cairo and read the Bible for what reason that is a stupid comment. I bet you didn't know that there are Christians that live in Egypt did you!! If i did do that i don't think anybody would bother me anyways!! and Unhappy 1583758 you can continue to be that way! all of you neo-cons need to get back into your holes.
The following is probably true of Islame brainwashed Muslims as well:
"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country WHO DETERMINE THE POLICY and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, AND DENOUNCE THE PEACEMAKERS FOR LACK OF PATRIOTISM AND EXPOSING THE COUNTRY TO DANGER. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY." -- Hermann Goering, at the Nuremberg Trials
Too bad they ain't got the b@lls to fight their BS religious leaders.... Too scared of a mythical hell.
All you idiotic liberals dont like what Lowes is doing also dont like America. Why dont you all do us a favor and leave our country.
Why would we want to leave our country? I don't mix other people's religious beliefs with my social nor personal life regardless of what cult they belong to. I spend an average of at least a thousand $s a month at Lowes and will continue to spend the same at Lowes. I don't care what stand they have just so long as they continue the service they have been giving me faithfully throughout the years.
I don't care if the muslims have a tv show or not. I wouldn't allow it to be watched in my home anymore than I would a christian or other religious made to make money shows.
I for one am sick and tired of ALL religions! All they do these days is h-a-t-e. The followers of every single one act like cult members. I am tired of all the mixing of politics and religion, too; they do not mix.
I live in America where there is suppose to be freedom of religion. I am tired of some thinking that their religion is the only religion. This is why I am no longer a religious person: it is all words. No one walks the way their beliefs talk and if they do not like what their beliefs teach, they change them to suit them. Have at! Just don't cram any of your religions down my throat!
The biggest devils in the world are religious bullies - whether they are Catholic, Jewish, Muslim, or Christian!
Quit wearing religion on your sleeves, people! Master your own religions for yourselves before you start passing judgement on others! When you get perfect, then you can tell others what to think, say, and do! If you think you are perfect already, see a shrink - you need help!
"I would have to agree. Everyone should read the article " The Myth of Peaceful, Moderate Muslims". Just type the title into the search engine. Here's a little excerpt:
In a country when Muslims are a minority, they demand more and more privileges and rights for minorities from the host country. When their number grows by birth or immigration, they want to impose Sharia rule. When they become the majority, they start bringing death and destruction to the host nation and start ethnic cleansing. This is the worst type of disloyalty and hypocrisy.
Is not this the same what Muhammad did to the early Meccans? When he was weak, he brought down verses, which were non-violent. He even uttered some verses, which praised the pagan gods (i.e. the satanic verses) to make the Meccans happy. But when he became powerful, his darker side began to emerge and the Qur’anic verses started losing their beauty. Once he conquered Mecca, he showed his true color to everyone – either convert or die by the sword."
Sounds like what "Christians" have been trying to do to the rest of the world for the last couple thousand years....
i like Lowes and the quality products they sell...if they don't want to advertise on the show that's their business...bet home depot doesn't pick it up either...hope they sponsor me... i could use the money...plain bob 2012...
Be careful what you ask for spineless coward. You and your Marine rhetoric don't scare me, I've beat down a lot better men than you. Oh yea I don't slap. So you might have a surprise waiting.
Yeah, Yeah er2cc I'm not there and your not here to test that theory of yours out, but if we were to meet up by chance i highly doubt you be talking the crap you talk and i highly doubt you would put a beat down on me! again your the true coward!! stay behind your computer screen talking your trash because that's all you conservative bastards do is talk trash!! BTW i don't slap either.
of COURSE Lowe's gets to decide where to put it's ads...and everyone else gets to decide they can boycott, disagree with and otherwise NOT support this cowardice...this unAmerican spineless bigotry masquerading as "playing it safe". Since when does hatred toward any religion get to masquerade itself as patriotism and then expect real Americans to just shut up about it? Lowe's: this is just got to be one of the dumbest stunts of all time. Shame on you!
Geez...sure some closed minded people around here!
As if Christians are nothing but do-gooders who only want to...spread their religion via missionaries into countries that don't want to hear it...kill each other, as in Protestants vs. Catholics in Northern Ireland...do like Timothy McVeigh and blow up buildings and kill children...spread ridiculous fear mongering by claiming the U.S. is going to adopt "Sharia Law"...hold Koran burnings at a so-called "church" in Florida...invade Muslim countries because they have "WMDs" and are going to use them on us...
And yet, all those closed minded people here can do is spout the same old inane crap that has been proven over and over and over again to be nonsense. Not all Muslims are terrorists, and those who insist they are will be the ones to lead us down the garden path and toward destruction...
Sounds like what "Christians" have been trying to do to the rest of the world for the last couple thousand years....
a2Phil: Really, I don't recall Christ ever saying "convert or die" unlike Mohammad.
DG_W: You should be grateful that you live in the US. Those other muslim countries you spoke of, do you think they would like having someone who's an atheist in their midst? You would be just as guilty as someone who is a christian. You think all of you're intellect is going to convince them that you are on their side? All I can say is haha.
Today I issued an order to all my handymen and contractors that any invoices presented for Products bought at Lowes will not be reimbursed.
As we purchase directly or through our contractors hundreds of thousands of dollars in supplies each Month (Yes Month) with tens of thousands from Lowes they store they mostly use will certainly feel the loss, I personally called that stores Manager and made sure he knew why.
I also have instructed our corporate charge accounts be closed.
We will not support any company that engages in bigotry to gives in to bigotry. Discrimination will not be tolerated.
Today I issued an order to all my handymen and contractors that any invoices presented for Products bought at Lowes will not be reimbursed.
Sounds to me like you will be paying your contractors right out of your pocket instead. It wouldn't matter to me if you honored my Lowes credit or not, you would still pay off my invoice or I'd have a mechanics lein on your business in a heartbeat.
frankly;;it's not bigotry...the show suck's...they should do a home improvement show and stay away from religion and politically theme crap...it's sad that you are that inclined to try and hurt anyone's business...you being a business man your self...have you ever seen something didn't work for your best interest and decided to go another way...it happen's...
The Zionists have done a great job in alienating Muslims! Its not only their phobia, insecurity and paranoia in this case but diverting attention from their own doings in this country! Don't you ever forget Goldman Sachs, Lehman Brothers, Merril Lynch...These are the real threat to our society and security! They're pretty good at making monsters and scaring people. No wonder they call themselves Fienkestein, Rottenburg, Goldmann, or was it Frankestein?
When are people going to wake up and smell the bombs! Most terrorist attacks are done by groups of Muslims. Yes, there are the lone wackjobs who claim to be Christian or some other religion who kill, but it is only Muslims that kill the infidel in groups. They indoctrinate their children to hate Israel, America, etc. They indoctrinate their children to be willing to strap on a bomb and kill. It is only Muslims who believe their women must wear complete covering so a man may not be tempted by them and commit a sexual act with them. Get that, in the Muslim world, its not the man who's guilty if he wants a woman sexually, its the woman who's guilty because she may have shown them an earlobe and then she's stoned! Christians believe in going to the mission field where nonbelievers are to minister to them about the saving and loving grace of Jesus Christ. Political correctness is killing this country and you liberal puppets are falling right into this ridiculously stupid trap!!!
I deal with contractors all the time. They do not present their invoices from conducting their business and supplying their services to me for payment. They complete the jobs I contracted with them and get my sign off once they have satisfied me that the job is complete to my satisfaction. Where they purchase their parts from which they need to perform their contracted service with me is none of my business which is why I also take extended warranties on all parts and services.
Maxi, are you really that naive and blind? When you call someone a Zionist, you are talking about a Jewish person. When you call someone a Zionist, you are a out-and-out racist no doubt about it!
Hmmm MrIndia unless you, Flag Waver & the idiot & culturally challeged bias moron named Justiceforall-3257287 are all very closely related to Helen Keller then you have no real excuse for not knowing what the rest of the world knows about the muslim religion in general. The purpose of the religion, not the radicals but the religion as a whole, is to convert or destroy not get along. You can try to spin the peaceful religion proganda B.S. all you want but fortunately the rest of us can read too and we know what that damn qur'an says. All of us Americans are not push overs, you'll see.
I would have to agree with noiwontyesiwill, even though the constitution does give the right of freedom of religion I believe that our fore fathers never dreamt of a religion that would conflict with the current standing laws of this nation. I believe that any religion whose basic believe system that would contradict that nations' laws could not be practice here. I say all this because of a "American Most Wanted" episode that depicted a ritural killing of 3 daughters by the father here in America who then fled to a back to his home country that convienently had no extradition treaty with US. That leads me to a point could a devout Muslim actual come to America and still practice their faith properly because of their strict belief system that their faith is? So that leads me to a serious question, why have the Muslims' come to live here? Have watered down their faith to live within the context of this nation's majority approved laws or are they here as 5th column to help bring down this nation? What I need to also ask is WHY would any self respected Muslim come and live in any country where their faith would be in direct conflict with that country's laws? I can not believe that they are so ignorant of that nation's laws that they would not know about the conflict with their own faith, that they would purposely expose themselves to the temptations that the nation would offer. Of course we could just say that they are here as missionaries of their faith as Christians have done for centuries, but I really dont't think so. As for Lowes They've right as any American Company has to do what they feel is right both morally and financially sound. As for the rest It's the thought that counts
Where are the real Americans. The US was founded on the belife All men are created equal, and we have freedom of religion among our basic rights.
Why are most of you trying to turn the US into the Christian Iran. Since when did the US become a country where only one religion is allowed? Are we going to start killing all non-Christian? Are we going to deport anyone who doesn"t own an american car? Who choose's who is the true American. What about the Muslim's who serve in the US Armed Forces? Do we tell them thanks for serving but now you have to give up your religious freedom because some think it Un-American to be Muslim.
The Third Reich supported views that mirror what is being posted here. Have we fallen so far that US citizen are starting to sound like supporters of the Third Reich? Is this what we want to become?
"why would i want to walk in the streets of Cairo and read the Bible for what reason that is a stupid comment. I bet you didn't know that there are Christians that live in Egypt did you!"
USMC28
What is stupid is to think that Christians livein Muslim countries with the same rights than Muslims. Christian Coptic are manslaughter , their Churches burned all over Middle East and living as a second class citizens. Did you really travel Middle east? Get your facts straights.
If you want to send them back to where they come from, you're going with them simply because you and your kind are their cousins, I don't see any difference between you and them, you're from the same race and same heritage, the only difference is that you know the skill of how to milk people and they don't, that's why it makes them mad to do the things they do! In fact your type are as extreme as they're but just in different ways!
9/11 happened because our CIA run by AIPAC had promised the moron Bin Laden that if he would use his family money to fight the Russians they'll help him to overthrow the Saudi kingdom but guess what happened?!
Killings in Middle East and Africa, is another example of CIA intervention! Its just been easier to deal with one person (a dictator) than spending money lobbying in other countries parliaments or political system! Do you get that Frankestein?
The more I go deep into this post, the more I realize that the end of humanity is coming. I have come to the point to be ashamed to be classified as a human, I would rather be a dog or some other animal, at least I wouldnt suffer reading all this stupidity.
When will people understand that religion is to be kept within yourself, as a guide for you to choose the right path in life. When will people stop developing opinions on others based on propaganda. Sadly I realized that it will never happen. I wish I could do something...
I'd have to say that as the Bible is written there can only be one true road to follow with faith..
In the words of faith I no of no other religion that hides and is not beloved to express its companionship and love with outspoken support to all people and of any religion, other than +.
Lusitania I respect your opinion but remember, it is yours...
Other people may think differently, their right to think cannot be denied, sadly there are people who try to do so...there are many ignorants in this word.
Their original decision was to advertise on the program... they did not stick by that decision, they wimped out and folded to a hate group. Still a "good job"?
So if I am ultra religious, make my wife a second class citizen and tell her she has no rights and has to dress and act like I say........the progressive left will attack me on all fronts calling me every name from caveman to oppressive......
But if I call it islam....well then I get their full support?????????
Unfortunately until the muslims admit to the brutal treatment of europeans by the Moors and the Ottoman Turks and quit whining about the crusades. We will be at a standstill. You can't forgive someone who refuses to admit they did anything wrong while blaming you for something that happened around the same time. Muslims today still throw the crusades up as a reason for their actions. When Islam stands up and says killing my ancestors was wrong then and only then will I apologize for the crusades.
The biggest hate group in America is called LIBERALS !!!! They seem to hate every aspect of the paradigm upon which this once great country was built. All the while, they love black racism, female sexism, any religion not christian, and hetero-phobia. Go figure!
The most ignorant people in the world are conservatives, the pot calling the kettle black is a sure way to show how moronic you are...The only hope for this country is for the Liberals to take it back from the Christian Fundamentalists who have taken over the Republican Party...I realize that you most likely, will only understand or be able to read part of this so, Just try to understand that the world is neither black nor white. And some day you will thank those of us who fought for your freedom to be as ignorant as you want to be...
I've actually watch the show, so I can make an informed opinion about it: The show itself is not pro-Islam or anything it simply presents the people on the show and their viewpoints. The show has no solidarity with anything it simply shows the peoples lives. However, what is shows makes you wonder about Islam. It really is backwards and stuck in the 1600s, with sexist rules, values that are out of date, and some "no uncertain terms" near-racist ideology.
And I do fully support Lowe's in that if they do not want to be associated with something they disagree with, they do not have to.
Christians are not ignorant
Just those who use hate are.
Never ever mix up Christians and the 'religions; who purport to be Christian.
God & Jesus have very little to do with what passes for organized religion in America
My recipe: Start with outrage, add in two minutes on wikipedia, a quick google search, hit send and done. Here's what I wrote them!
"I was horrified to hear that you pulled your advertising from All-American Muslim! Shame on you. And the excuse you offered was almost worse! Muslims ARE Americans! Substitute black or jewish or blond for Muslim and you can see how wrong your move was.
To have your company's decisions altered by some bigoted and ignorant religious zealots is disgraceful. And cowardly. It gives the impression that you agree with their anti-Muslim rhetoric.
Farooq Kathwari - oh, what a scary name! He must want to kill all Americans...except for the fact that he is President and CEO of Ethan Allen furniture.
And what about comedians Dave Chappelle and the Daily Show's Aasif Mandvi? Are they American?
How about Jermaine Jackson? Or that evil Dr. Oz!?!?
I've always been suspicious of Iqbal Theba from that pro-terrorist show Glee! I can see why you wouldn't want people like that shopping at Lowe's!
What about Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan? He was a Muslim. I say was because he died serving his country as a US Army soldier in Iraq. You certainly wouldn't want to be associated with someone like that!
Same with Keith Ellison the congressman from Minnesota.
And Ahmed Zewail, the 1999 Nobel Prize winner in Chemistry.
And don't get me started about Kareem Abdul-Jabbar or Fareed Zakaria!
The list can go on, but I hope you get my point. You made a HORRIBLE, ignorant decision. But you can make up for it. Until then though, go with the knowledge that you have lost customers in me, my friends and my family."
OK... Who cares. Last time I heard, this country supported free enterprise. Where one can advertise where they please. They can choose not to support a racist show. I will say it is racist until I see a show called, "Christian in America"
yeah...cuz Christians are such a small group that nobody knows about...we should have a show that teaches Americans about Christians, oh wait...we already have like 100 of them on cable already. 700 Club comes to mind.
U R so smart eric...Props to your parents and your educators.
Eric: sorry to disappoint you, but opposing Islam is NOT racist. Islam is a religion, not a race. There are people of many differing races and nationalities who are Muslim, to include white people. Your post is typical liberal crap - when you can't state and defend the facts, you revert to calling people with whom you disagree racist.
I will say it is racist until I see a show called, "Christian in America"
At no time did you say a reality show.
There are scores of Christian based programs out there. You know it too.
Or are you implying that the 700 club, the Duggards 19 and counting and any Sunday morning worship show is not seen by the general public?
Any show put out by Kirk Cameron is Christian based as well.
Either you need to convey what you're saying a whole lot better, or accept the fact that there are plenty of Christian based or themed shows out there.
Somehow a mass on EWTN just doesn't seem the same as a whiny show about how horrible all of us are to the poor muslims. Who by the way still publically call us infidels underserving of life. I'm an INFIDEL and darn proud of it.
And the general public can't watch the numerous Christian church shows that are on TV right now? You don't even need cable television to be overrun with Christian religious channels. I didn't have cable for the last 4 years and since network TV has gone digital about half the channels I received were Christian run religious channels. I don't think it has to be "reality" TV for people to watch.
Let me put it this way, A Christian show to shove its ideals down everyone's throats. The shows you mention are there for people with like minded ideas.
A race can be defined by a general group with the same religion, NOT just skin color you racist pricks.
NYMike: A lot of christians do not watch the christian broadcasting network because of so much false teaching that goes on there. So for you to say that it is "tons" of people who watch is completely outrageous.
A race can be defined by a general group with the same religion, NOT just skin color you racist pricks.
Kudos to you on being in the minority of realizing that race is not just skin color, however:
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and i stand my mine to no longer shop at their store...the chuch nuts can be the only ones to shop with them...i'll put my money into company that will help this country...
Sober up Michael- what is it you think the muslims have done to help this country? We, in the USA, still have the right to advertise how and where we choose...this isn't your beloved islamic country- it is America.
Michael--Oh, well, since I have a Lowe's, a Home Depot, and a Mennards near me, I'll stop shopping at the other two to make up to Lowes for the loss of your business.
A company has the right to advertise or not where they want. The PURPOSE of such advertising is to increase the number of customers that come into their store and buy stuff. If they believe (and please note, no proof is necessary, only a belief) that continuing on this show not only will not HELP their market share, but will actually HURT it, they are WELL within their rights to stop such advertising. And you have the absolute right to boycott.
And I have the absolute right to 'counter' your boycott.
Funny how there are people on this thread praising Lowes for making an unpopular decision, claiming first amendment rights, and there are people mocking Michael for utilizing his first amendment rights by making an unpopular statement, calling him un-American.
if lowes had made the decision to pull the advertisement on their own, i wouldn't think twice about it. the problem is that they pulled it because of the whining of a hate group.
Well since the church nuts outnumber the atheist nuts I don't think Lowes has much of a problem. Merry Christmas Y'all. My first Amendment right in action.
i think that ppl need to open theyre eyes and see that all over the world there is good ppl and bad ppl its not the religion that is violent it is the ppl . there r cristians that r bad aswell as any other religion . i am american by birth and i used to be cristian but i chose to convert to muslim but that dont make me a bad person and my husband is from egypt and he is muslim and he dont have a mean bone in his body . some ppl just luv to hate because they dont understand the religion . as far as the show i truely support the show "all american muslim " i watch it every week and it is very educational.as far as lowes is concerned i would never shop there again.
I am thrilled that you are a peace loving Muslim, but how do you answer to the Imam at your mosque when he reads the Koran that tells you to convert people to Islam or kill them. Does your husband beat you as is required by Islamic law? You are fortunate not to live in a country with Sharia laws. Let's keep America that way. One way to overcome the extremists in any religion is for those who don't support the extremism to "rat out" those who intend harm to others and stop any violence to anyone.
"I've actually watch the show, so I can make an informed opinion about it: The show itself is not pro-Islam or anything it simply presents the people on the show and their viewpoints. The show has no solidarity with anything it simply shows the peoples lives. However, what is shows makes you wonder about Islam. It really is backwards and stuck in the 1600s, with sexist rules, values that are out of date, and some "no uncertain terms" near-racist ideology."
Sounds like ANY religion when taken to extremes...that's why I'm agnostic...
chuch nut? What is a chuch nut? Or do you mean Church? So I am a nut because I go to church? Obviously Michael-2780279 is not a christian. I am a nurse and I see God at work every day. I think those that don't beleive in God or do beleive in the hate against 'christians and jews' exampled in an earlier post of muslim 'bible' is indeed sad. Very sad.
Looks like people won't have to go to another hardware store to find pieces for their bombshelter they're building in their basement that their wives think is a "man cave". It wouldn't bother me if Lowe's is pulling their ads from a show of any kind, but they are doing it under the pressure of a fringe Christian hate group. I would rather spend my money to a company that has the spine to tell groups like them to stuff it, especially when there aren't enough customers who would give a damn to boycott them and risk lowering their profits anyway. They are the types of Christians that are trying to do what they accuse the Muslims of doing -- Dominating through fear and intimidation. Typical of a group with "Family" in their title.
Take a look at the people that spearheaded this. http://floridafamily.org/ It's just another radical group of religious followers.
They also urge the boycotting of Snickers, Orbit Gum, Skittles, Twix, Starburst and Hasbro to name just a few, as it doesn't fit into their narrow view of things.
I think it's worse that Lowes stopped advertising because another religion urged them to. Had they stopped because the company didn't like the direction the show was going, then there would be little issue.
FFA is doing nothing more than pushing their anti anything not devout zealot Christian agenda. They have called for the boycott of almost every product out there because they don't like the show that it is being advertised in.
Don't take my word for it. Visit the site for yourselves.
For all of you 1st Amendment fanatics please live by what you love so much. You want freedom of speech for those you support but want to deny the same rights to others. Any group even the ones you don't like has the right to boycott and ask support of their followers. When you make hateful statements about the religious right you are no better than what you think they are.
Only if you follow Islam. They are the ones that spread hate and intolerance. The Koran says if you don't covert to Islam, they are to cut off your head. So any true Muslim hates you.
All Terrorists are Muslims…Except the 94% that Aren’t
Everyone is so concerned with Muslims being the terrorist, that is so funny. The link above takes you to the article with the title above and the article includes the FBI's own statistics that show 6% or less acts of terrorism are caused by Muslims with at least 42% being made by latinos (sorry guys my family is also latino so I am not saying anyone personally I am just showing the facts to the uneducated Islamophobians) The extremist whit left wing groups account for 24% of terrorists too. I agree and understand that everyone has their own choices and opinions but before anyone does so, you should at least make sure you have the facts beforehand otherwise you are just following someone else that more than likely has no true credibility of what they speak of. Lowe's did a stupid thing when they pulled their advertising sponsorship before finding out who was asking them to pull their advertising sponsorship and why they were asking them to do so. It is easy to talk yourself up and make yourself sound like you have credibility and know what you're talking about. What is even funnier, it is about the same if not easier to find out if the person that has been talking themself up to have knowledge and creditbility on a subject matter really has the evidence to back it up or not. I can gaurantee that most people just take another person's word for it most of the time and it is their laziness that makes them look, sound, and act as ignorant as the person they got the incorrect information from to begin with. How do you think these people with the many ponzi schemes got away for so long with everyone's money? They believed the person without checking their credibility or the facts. I am an educated white caucasian woman that was born a Christian but I always studied and learned about everything by making sure what I was learning was fact and true with credibility and evidence to support the information I was seeking which is why I am now a Muslim. I still believe in 90% of what I learned as a Christian the other 10%, I never believed even when I was a Christian. The other 10% actually coinsides with Islam for me. I have family that is Christian and I still love Christianity. I still have All my Bibles and I continue to read them in addition to the Quran. I am American in every way born and bred. I am an educated woman that is on the path to be an Engineer as well. Muslims are the least known and understood at this time and it is due to ignorance, to simply put it. Everyone that is writing the comments filled with hatred towards Muslims have obviously never taken the time to learn about Islam, ask questions of a Muslim, or taken any initiative on their own to make sure what they are hearing is true. They are simply believing that so many of the ignorant people speaking against Islam today are knowledgeable in Islam and have credibility and evidence to back up what they are saying but in reality, no one is checking to make sure what these people are true. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, just make sure it is an informed one. Who wants to tell their child later when asked "Why did you tell us this information was true if it isn't?" I somehow feel that no one wants to answer, "because I did not ensure the information I was given was correct so I in a sense let someone else make my decision for me." Take the time to educate yourself. I don't believe we are all to have the same thoughts, opinions, ideas, or anything else that makes us each an individual. God made us the way we are and gave us free will and we should use it. We should be embracing our diversity, not condemning people from our own ignorance.
really to root of the problem is moses and his serial killer/hate criminal ways and all the religions who developed from him. Jews/islam/christians. more have been killed in relation to those three hate-mongering religions than for any other reason.
The difference Don is you have the choice to spend an eternity there if you choose no Christian is forcing you to their beliefs, but when you have a sword hanging over your head to submit or die as is the case in many parts of the world at the hands of muslims, that isn't a choice.
Heather: I understand where you are coming from, but for us we can't understand your switch to Islam. It was a well known fact that Muhammed was considered "normal" when he was married to his first wife Khadijah, although he probably married her for her money. That marriage lasted 25 years. What we can't understand is that how a man can claim to be speaking for God and behave as he has done after he supposedly heard from God? In other words, he was more violent in his later years compared to that of his youth. Usually a person acts more mature with time, not less. Unless you think that God acts this way?
Don but they don't say cut off his head and hurry the process.I'll tell you that God loves you. I'll tell you that the way to heaven is through Jesus. But I won't say my Father says kill those who don't believe. I'll pray that you come to believe so we can spend eternity with God together. I'll tell you that Jesus told you to pray to Our Father, not His Father. At no time in the gospels does Jesus say go and kill the unbelievers.
I will make sure i buy as much as i can from Lowes now. Its about time that someone recognizes that if a Muslim follows the Koran, they are no friend of ours and we need to get them out of the country. Gee, look around the entire world and tell me who is making all the trouble..... Muslims, no matter where you look.
Then who's next? The Jews, what about the blacks? How about anyone who has red hair? How about anyone who's your basic tool, I guess thet means you'll have to go as well.
I concur,we must rid ourselves of the gingers.....
Seriously all this talk about a stupid ad,that no-one wanted to see anyways.On a show,no-one really gives a shyte about.
Let's be honest folks,is this news? No,it isnt,its an attempt to get overly emotional asshats to come out and flame each other,for a make believe issue.
Praise Allah,God,and The Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Don't you love this country? Do you want Muslims to take over and become exterminated because you are not one? They have a plan to take over everything. Blacks and Jews do not. Niether do red heads. You make me want to say bad words. Don't be so blinded.
Not every Muslim wants to "take over". The point of this show is to make you understand that there are Muslims out there who are pretty normal people.
And about the Jews... if they want to take over, violence wouldn't be one of their first options. The stereotype is that they manipulate you with money, remember? Or has that happened already, seeing that many big companies are owned by Jews?
If you read the Bible you would understand that the Jews are God's chosen people. It clearly says that " I will bless them, that bless you and curse them that curse you." God was talking about His chosen people the Jews. Find a Bible and read it!! That verse is not hard to find...there are plenty of Christians that would help you look it up so you could read it. I haven't watched the Muslim program because I knew it would be a program that would try to get people to turn Islam. They are also trying to get their Sheria Law into our law system or at least to get our courts to say they can have their own laws. They need to go to their homeland where they can do what ever they want to do. I will alway shop at Lowes now...and everyone I have talked to feels the same way. If muslims want to boycott Lowes, big deal!! This is funny!!!
No Spartan not every muslim wants to take over, but find me one that doesn't call me an infidel. They use infidel the way the KKK uses the "N" word and think we are less than human also. In fact if they had the power they would probably treat everyone not muslim the same way. Really listen to what they say and how they say it.
The big question is how can devote Muslims say they believe in "religious freedom" when they have the following dictates that must be followed to be a true Muslim: From Allah's Book of Recitations, the Qur'an
In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful ...
"O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Whoso of you makes them his friends is one of them. God guides not the people of the evildoers." 9:51
"This is the recompense of those who fight against God and His Messenger, and hasten about the earth, to do corruption there: they shall be slaughtered, or crucified, or their hands and feet shall alternately be struck off; or they shall be banished from the land. That is a degradation for them in this world; and in the world to come awaits them a mighty chastisement, except for such as repent, before you have power over them. So know you that God is All-forgiving, All-compassionate." 5:32-33
"And when Allah revealed to the angels, saying: 'I shall be with you. Give courage to the believers. I shall cast terror into the hearts of the unbelievers. Strike them above the necks, smite their finger tips!' " 8:12
"If you gain mastery of them in battle, inflict such a defeat as would terrorize them, so they would learn a lesson and be warned." 8:57
The one goal of Islam since it's founding is to in fact establish a world Islamic Theocracy.
Carolyn - The Jews aren't Gods chosen people. That is another lie they perpetuate to spread thier non stop victimhood. Believe me the Jews use the Christians worse than any other religion, trust me that would stab you in the back faster than a Muslim. I am a Christian and this Jewish first attitude has to stop in the US. Stop putting Israel before your own country
I would like to thank all Americans who will buy from Lowe's rather than Home Depot because they stand up to the ones that are trying to do harm to America or Americans I will switch all my business to Lowe's from Home Depot Because Home Depot helps Illegals get Jobs in this Country by letting them stand in front of their stores and make a mess out of are towns all they care about is their profits and not the towns they are located
Of course most cognitive individuals understand the difference between Teaching and Baptizing which are peaceful endeavors and the Muslim alternative which is submit or Die!!
"Of course most cognitive individuals understand the difference between Teaching and Baptizing which are peaceful endeavors and the Muslim alternative which is submit or Die!!"
So why have we "Christians" been doing the "submit or die" for the last couple thousand years (longer than Islam has been around)??? Every time that's just about the way it is, whether with the Crusades, the Inquisition, what the U.S did with the blacks and American Indians over the last 500 years, all the puppet governments the U.S set up world wide, need I go on??
Excuse me Moobs but that is in the Catholic version of the bible also in fact it was a recent reading at mass. Yes the Jews are God's chosen people. And Jesus was born a jew to a jewish mother and raised by a jewish father St Joseph. The basis of all christianity is judaism. We as christians should honor their first recognition of the true God.
I stand behind my words...... of all the terrorism in the world, muslims cause 99% of it. All terrorists may not be muslims but 99% of terrorists are muslim. Good grief people, will it take another 9/11 to wake you people up as to what these people want? Do you know their goal is to fly their flag over the White House? Have you not seen enough pandering by liberals to favor muslims? By golly I have, Muslims are being catered to while Christians are being persecuted right in this country every day... people, wake up..... Jesus is the reason for the season!
Your post is just a string of logical fallacies. 9/11 would have been prevented by having the door to the cockpit locked. Now it is. Now nobody can get in if the pilot doesn't want them to.
How are Christians, exactly, being persecuted? They are not. They are still the favored people in the country, with everybody catering to them. Are you pissy about the term "Happy Holidays"? Touchy much? You do realize that there is more than just Christmas around this time of year, don't you? Christmas/holiday marketing starts on Black Friday.
You want separation of Church and state as long as Christianity is exempt. It is not the role of our government to have Christianity as the state religion.
I was on the ground pulling people out of the rubble on 9/11. Where were you? Complaining about how persecuted you feel?
I could disprove you all day long, but I have things that need attending.
@Ionereb - Yes the original Jews were God's chosen people. When Jesus fufilled the new covenant (which the Jews reject) Christians became the new "chosen" people. This "chosen people" fallacy is something the Jews love to promote as they enjoy making lapdogs out of stupid Christians.
Christianity did not exist until well after Jesus died. Until the heads of Judaism ruled that those who follow a Messiah were not actually Jewish, Jesus' followers believed they were Jewish, following the Jewish messiah. Jesus was the "King of the Jews" not the "King of the Christians."
Jesus was never a Christian. Christianity was invented later.
That is the most moronic statement yet "About time a big bussiness stood up for america." There are so many things wrong with that statement. Can anyone tell me what they are?
HA HA! I was wondering when this comment would come up. How long has the south been rising? I was born in CA, in the 70's, in a good christian home, raised with ranchers, lumberjacks and millworkers. I have heard "the south is rising again" from a lot of comic book strips and internet threads. All I really do is hear them complain. Is that what "the south is rising again!" means..."Look out...a whole lotta bee-atchin and moanin coming your direction."
Concerned citizen can't tell any difference in your use of redneck from the KKK's use of the "N" word . Dumb names to put somebody else down because you're not smart enough to come up with something intelligent. I'll take those hard-working farm boys black and white from the center 2/3rds of the country any day. Most of them have redneck values work hard, play hard and keep your word.
yeah should of said anything, not "nothing"... double negative..
Lonereb... I live in the south and yeah there is a huge difference.. trust me no one gets their panties in a twist over the word "Redneck" except i guess you.
Of Course, Lowes can do what they want...But I vow now, not to shop at Lowes. I am a contractor and spend thousands and thousands of dollars a year on construction supplies, I will not spend a dime at their stores...I am so sick of people in this country, telling me who are Americans and who are not...Keep on going Muslim in America, although I didn't watch you before, I know will...We must face this bigotry and hatred of other cultures head on....
If you like these people so much move over there with them. Obviously you have not read what they have done to Europe, they have taken over Spain, France and almost have England as well. They are a terrorist group and you need to educate yourself on the matter before you spout off nonsence.
Big time contractor, huh? Well you just keep kissing A with muslims and when they get a chance they will teach you a few lessons and you won't like them.
Speaking of hatred and bigotry Jahnsart, read the "Religion of Peace"'s quoran sometime! Images of an innocent old man being held without his diabetes medicine, images of innocent journalists being beheaded and idiots blowing themselves up along with numerous innocents are all perfectly acceptable within this "holy" book and its "peaceful" followers! Capitalizing the Q above would be lending the thing dignity that it doesn't and never will, deserve...
Mr. Jahnsart, I understand your taking the stance you have taken toward Lowes. They should have thought about what they were doing before they advertised and thought twice as much about it when they pulled their ads. I am am ordained Christian that is repulsed by the actions of fanatics of any faith. Muslims, Jews, and Christians are all sons of Abraham. Those that worship pray to the same God. I am also a proud American and I have some Muslim friends who are proud Americans too. Some of them were here in America on 9-11-01 and mourned with us over the attacks that day. I call on all Americans to pray for our country that we continue to have our freedoms and that we not give in to prejudice and hatred. God bless you all.
Typical bigots. No facts, just fear and hatred...Calling me names and saying I am a liar is right in line with the wackos who watch Faux Noise...Attack the messenger and not the message. Don't let the facts get in your way, then call everyone who disagrees with you, a liar and unamerican...You Christian fanatics and your ideology are bound to go where you belong, the way of the neanderthal.
Wow Jahn, you're dumber than I thought, you just showed all your bigotry, hatred and intolerance in one sentence. You know the same thing you are accusing others of.
I think your the only post that hit close to the truth. If the advertising was paying off in profit the store would keep it no matter what the controversy. It was probably a waste of money based on the ratings and they just needed the nudge to get out.
I think Lowe's has the right to pull whatever advertising they want to pull. If the muslims have the right to say and do whatever they want and the tv station has the right to air whatever they want then why would anyone not think Lowe's has the right to their opinions? This country was founded on freedom...and I am sick of people telling me that as a Christian I don't have the right to do this or do that. Muslims have no more or less rights than the rest of us and if a show pulled ads because of a Christian show would the same people complain? Get real...it is their advertising dollars and they can spend them however they want. They don't force you to buy from them and no one should try to force them into anything!
ya right!!! I haven't talked to even one person that has watched that show. A million people! You gotta be kidding!!! They are just trying to get people to watch that show by saying that a million people watch it.. I am no fool..like you are!!
ya right!!! I haven't talked to even one person that has watched that show. A million people! You gotta be kidding!!!
So you are basing this on not knowing anybody who watches it? Your logic is very flimsy. Tell me, how many people do you know? Have you asked every single one of them if they watch this show?
You are basing your thoughts purely on your own ignorance. And people wonder why Americans are viewed as dumb. You make the rest of us look bad.
I am no fool..like you are!!
Thanks for the laugh! Game over, you lose. Insert quarter and try again some other time.
A million out of 200+ million not worth the advertising dollar. No wonder they pulled the ad.
A million views per week is pretty solid for what seems to be a niche show.
Sunday Night Football, the most popular show in terms of views, gets only 18 times more viewers (over 18 million out of 313 million). The vast majority of television shows don't get nearly as many viewers as you might think. The most watched show ever, the 2011 Super Bowl, had 111 million viewers (contrast that to weekly football's 18 million).
Bet spongebob gets better ratings.
Spongebob is an incredibly popular show among its target audience, an undeniable hit that has won numerous awards over a decade, and manages only about 5 times as many viewers as this show. Of course, the only thing I could find about its first season was that it enjoyed "modest success," as compared with its current breakout success.
True football gets higher ratings and that is the point. The advertising buck goes where it works the best. In retail and I worked in retail for 25 years they know one lost customer actually means 25 people who never even become customers. One bad experience loses far more than one persons business. I really take what I read on sites like this with a grain of salt as they say. The same people who decry Lowes actions don't know the difference between an illegal alien and a native born hispanic and trash both of them every day on these sites. Must be because those illegal Mexicans are Christian.
It's the likes of the biggots that is the reason that this show was made in the first place, but in an attempt to stem the prejudice against them, idiot conservatives see local terrorists in training. These Muslims were born here or came to the US legally to get away from the extremes of their culture and live how they want to live.
It is well known they are in training in many places in the U.S.. You are ignorant and stupid for using the mark of the beast in your moniker too! They need to be sent back where they came from because their intent is violence!
Its about time someone took a stand, our government is so lilylivered that they just want to roll over and let them step on over. These people are terrorist and they have cells all over the US, we need to kick them out. Europe is almost completely Muslim at this time. The only people that want to look the other way is the uneducated uninformed non readers in the US. If we don't stop them now, they will take us over, never believe that they are a peaceful group, they are not. We have a Muslim President so he just does not care as he wants to ruin America as well. I applaude Lowes and will shop there more since they took this stand.
Get a Television!! It's a rectangular box that shows news. You can buy one at most stores. Muslim riots are everywhere around the world as they keep taking over most countries. They are overthrowing rulers and then will put in their Muslim Brotherhood rulers.
Canada wouldn't let anyone come and live in their country now that was not born there. They are lots smarter than we are!!
4 weeks ago. Stayed 2 weeks. Because of work go about once every 2 months. Italy, Germany, France, U.K. It's not the Europe I used to know that's for sure.
Funny thing, just a couple days ago I went to shop at Lowes to give my support and there were some obviously islamic shoppers there supporting Lowes too!
I'm so behind Lowe's decision. There is a bigger picture to the show. It's not tolerance, it's indoctrination. I would also venture to say it borders on treason. I'm so tired of our country bending over for every whining nut case out there. Lowe's is a private enterprise, they can do what they want without some nut senator calling for a boycott. It's none of his business. It's called free enterprise.
You're saying that Lowe's isn't "bending over for a whining nut case"? I can't believe that there are people out there who are convinced every Muslim is hell-bent on destroying the west or some bullcrap like that. Some radical right wing group says that a show on TLC of all networks (the same network airing shows like "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition") is going to destroy American values and Lowe's pulls their advertising. That sounds like bowing to the wishes of a nut case group to me.
Americans need to stop being so goddang intolerant. Yes, there are terrorist groups that call themselves Muslim that assassinate, murder, and cause destruction. But these people aren't Muslims. The Muslims I have met are just as peaceful and loving as most Christians can be. And to say there have never been any terrorist-like "Christian" groups is just foolish.
Americans Intolerant: You sir are a dumbass how many christians churchs do they allow in Afgoofastan 00000000000000 Now that's intolerant. I say when Muslins stop spreading hate hell will freeze over. Muslin religion should not be allowed in this country they are Anti American and Anti Christian. Let them sleep in the desert with their camels like the animals they are.
That's not very Christian of you now is it, Mo Monster? You say they won't stop spreading hate but look at you and others on here who are crying out about this simply because someone is Muslim and not Christian. Like I said earlier, not all Muslims are the same. There are screwed up things going on, but there a lot of Muslims who are just like you and me. We need to accept others, not continue to perpetuate all this hate.
I spent 3 years in Spain, travelled to other Euopean Countries and to the Middle East during my tour. Some of the worst conditions were due to Muslim influence. Their whole philosophy is based on becoming the ruling religion by whatever means necessary. They fight among themselves when there is dissent within their own faith. Some Muslim women I met were jealous of Christain freedoms, though they'd never admit it openly to their family. They also felt cheated because the men have the right to break the rules and go unpunished where as the women are strictly controlled and micromanaged to live a certain way. Much of Europe has a strict policy with the Muslim faith, you can maintain the faith but don't expect to go about spreading it or expecting anyone within their country to adhere to the same rules. Other than London, there isn't a lot of love of the Muslim faith outside of the middle east. Looking back at European history it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out why.
I don't think that justifies what happened here though. I mean it's a T.V. show called American Muslim. It's not "indoctrinating" anyone. I'm not saying you should give up your religion and become Muslim. Rather, you shouldn't immediately target,label, ostracize, etc. anyone just because they say there are Muslims. There are plenty of Christians who act like their religion has to be dominant too. Look at the people who originally protested against the show. Be accepting of others and don't be assertive with your religious beliefs, I guess.
If you want to hold on to such close-mindedness and believe that every Muslim is bad and going to destroy us, go ahead. In the end, having love and being open to peace, even when others are not, is what is going to matter. "Resisting" a supposed invasion and corruption of our society by millions of people you paint with a broad and relatively inaccurate label is the thing that isn't going to get us anywhere.
Last I heard Extreme Makeover was sponsered by Sears and is an ABC show of which reruns are carried on TLC but also on CMT. It is not a TLC show but it's syndicated reruns were bought by TLC.
i support lowe's decision, we need to understand what that old saying is a sheep in wolf clothing, were not kidding our selfs, there will be and uprising of muslims its just time and how many of them our here and how many that are coming here. open yours eyes, they don't like our way of life or any thing about our christianity. if your not one of them then they would rather see you dead, don't fool your self, just read the one on top of this one( (anana-1382213 ) ) there are many more, they come here and are offended by us celebrating most of the stuff that has been for generations, ( ( christmas ) )( ( easter ) ) and they bash everything we do, they spit on british soldiers coming home from iraq war, calling them rapist, murders. i hope by now you can get a little eye opener. just check it out for your selfs. i bow down to none other, just you my lord jesus christ, i will die before i will betrayed my lord and savior jesus christ, a amen.
As for complaining about the celebrations of Christmas and Easter it is my first Amendment right to do so. I just wish all those who want to force me to say Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas create your own celebrations and leave mine alone. I will respect Hannukah, Kwanza and the winter solstice just leave me alone.
Holy %$@& now I truely know the meaning of the saying:
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out -- Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out -- Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out -- Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me -- and there was no one left to speak for me.
Wow robert now calling people out who do not believe the same as you taken right out of the nazi playbook. I wouldn't be surprised if you find my name and address and some thugs to teach me a lesson, seriously some scarey stuff.
Robert, as Anana pointed out, this isn't about the fear of Muslims taking over, it's the fact that Christians are losing their superiority, exactly the same as Americans bitching about the non-white, minority faith immigrants and this is what happened in Germany in the 20's and in the 30's. It's too bad it took such an event of history for us to learn a lesson. It's too bad there are people who are determined to repeat it. I love it when religious right organizations creates such controversies because it wakes the rest of us up to their delusions and prejudices.
what american company"s that still make it american? mostly imported and called american! we need a list of american company's that are pure american made, with nothing imported! let's see what we can buy now!
Well you can take target off the list. It isn't american owned (french) and doesn't support american veterans (will not allow solicitation by veteran groups). But thank the Lord they took that anorexic speed freak from the black friday ads off the air.
lonereb Well you can take target off the list. It isn't american owned (french) and doesn't support american veterans (will not allow solicitation by veteran groups). But thank the Lord they took that anorexic speed freak from the black friday ads off the air.
Kinda off subject,but I am a veteran.... Research before you speak.... They in fact support veterans.. They do not allow any solicitation in front of their stores.
Why would lowes be influenced by such lunatics? The paranoia of these kooks and poeple posting here are what is wrong with people today. I sure would hate to live in thier minds thats for sure talk about the pits of hell.
Thank you anana-1382213. Some of these posters are way scarier! What happened to "Live and let live". Most of these people on the show were born here in the U.S.
Haha obviously not the same one you are on thank goodness. i really don't see the difference between the muslim haters and the haters that are muslim. The hypocrocy is soooo obvious.
Maybe congressman Keith Ellison should check what kind of a fringe hate group he belongs to. You know the Muslims haven't been too kind to this country, and the ones that are here sure aren't condemning their fellow muslims for act of violence. Mary Anne 2786091, why don't you ask the muslims why they can't live and let live. or would that be too politically incorrect for you?
Muslims still believe in stoning people and treating women like second class citizens in the majority of the world. Yes, that is controversial and I dont blame any company for not wanting to be involved.
the way i see it is why are they even coming here? they have problems on there homeland and the freak in government sticks their damn nose in their where it doesn't belong and lets them move right in to this country. don't they realize that the same f-in thing is going to happen right here on our soil with our kids and grand-kids. what the hell is going on with our country, we have a half Muslim running the country is bad enough. don't know how old some of you are but i am old enough to have seen blood shed and sure the hell don't want it where my granddaughter needs to live. we fought for our freedom so why do we need more to worry about, you see the news where some of these muslims were born here now they are with the taliban. we have actually killed one member that was part muslim, i'm sorry if i offended some but what it is it is. their is also alot of white people i wouldn't trust. yes i am white. my father told me along time ago that their is a handful of bad in every race.
I don't think anyone agrees with stoning woman and no not all muslims believe in that in fact not even the majority. I would understand your point if the show was about muslims who do support and actively stone woman or blow up and behead americans....I have not seen the show so I am guessing probably not the content TLC is going with.
I can state the obvious horrible crimes and inhumane acts of evil christians have done to others. But I am guessing most posting here do not care or can even form a critical thought on the subject.
Christianity has evolved. I dont see modern Christians crucifying people. I'm not Christian but at least they dont still engage in the horrific behavior from the middle ages. Islam has not evolved.
And yes , these muslims on the show do not practice those acts but THE majority of Muslims do. Islam is the biggest religion in the world and the US is not the center of the universe. I personally think any religion that treats women differently is savage and should not be allowed in the modern world.
Islam hasn't evolved? Mabye not in the middle east, but the Islamic women CNA's that do my care in Philadelphia have. They work where they choose and respect their husbands out of love, not fear. Their religion seems so different to us, but is similar in many respects. Do some real research and you will find the truth.
Maybe you need to get your head out of that hole in the ground and go see for yourself that life isn't always like what is reported by the media.
Lowes must be run by a bunch of chicken s*it people to bow to the whim of some group.
Also ,bigots do things like stone people or cover up their face if they are of a different gender. They also throw acid in their face and Mutilate the vaginas of their women. They also burn gays at the stake and cut off their genitalia
Its a middle age religion that has Not evolved at all.
You are right. Christendom has evolved into a social religion. Most of its members, while claiming to follow Bible principles, don't even know what the Bible teaches that a Christian is supposed to be. We are to love God "with our whole body, mind, and spirit"; then we are to "love our neighbor as we love ourselves." While I believe a sponsor of a television show should have the right to decide whether to pull its ads; the Bible makes it plain that "whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer; and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him." Each member of the human race is our brother, so we are to love everyone and yet hate the evil things that we, as sinful creatures, inflict on others. If you, however, read the book of Revelation, the book that explains what is to take place in the last days of this wicked system, you will learn that all religion, from Christendom to Pagandom, are to be destroyed to make way for God's heavenly kingdom.
"And yes , these muslims on the show do not practice those acts but THE majority of Muslims do"
I doubt that statement very much. Some christians still do horrific things but at least I understand the difference between some and all. I also understand the importance some people see in creating paranoia to feed to the ignorant for political and power gain. Just ask yourself when was the last time this country did not have a mortal enemy? What exactly do certain organizations and political figures gain from spreading these ideas? How is it any different from muslims spreading fear and hatred of christians/americans? Are you above those tactics and fear mongering?
Go on the interent and find a christian that performed a horrific middle age act. You Maybe might find one or two Fringe cult memebers that have done that, it at all.
Now go and try to find example of Muslims performing horrific middle age acts.
Hundreds of thousands or images and videos of women being mutilated, stoned, beaten and executed.
and yes the middle east is Much bigger than the US. The US Muslims are a very small minority in the muslim world
Female Genital Mutilation (World Health Organization, 1999, p. 149-154): (PDF, 672 KB) 97% of Egyptian women[= 29 million] have undergone Female Genital Mutilation 98% of Djibouti women [= 250,000] have undergone Female Genital Mutilation 98% of Somali women [= 5 million] have undergone Female Genital Mutilation 25% of Mauritanian women [= 750,000] have undergone Female Genital Mutilation
Again not one single person is defending murder abuse or terror. People have every right to be any religion they want. Just because someone is muslim does not mean they are murders or abuse woman, you may want to believe that with all your god fearing heart but it just is not true. I think all religions suck personally this is what the outcome is hatred and fighting like whiny little children over who is better and more right with god. Neither one is better both are just as petty and filled with hate as the other.
Again not one single person is defending murder abuse or terror. People have every right to be any religion they want. Just because someone is muslim does not mean they are murders or abuse woman, you may want to believe that with all your god fearing heart but it just is not true. I think all religions suck personally this is what the outcome is hatred and fighting like whiny little children over who is better and more right with god. Neither one is better both are just as petty and filled with hate as the other.
Ok -again , I'm not religious.
Second -the Neo Nazis in the US dont kill jews, that doesnt mean they dont stand for something horrific. There might even be some nice neo Nazis but their association with a belief tends to put people ( and advertisers) off.
Why deosnt TLC have a American Neo-Nazi reality show and point them in a nice light and forget about the whole Kill blacks and jews thing.
This IS still the USA not just an annex of the arab world and Lowe's has every right to choose who they will advertise with and who they won't. Personally, I am going to drive the 35 miles to my closest Lowe's this weekend and shop just to show support.
Minnie...Thanks...I'm with you! I would never support any advertiser who helps pay for this worthless biased program trying to show muslims in a good light, when they have only one agenda, kill, hate, subjugate.
Can't we all just get along ?
unless your blind and dont see what is going on around the world, its muslims stirring up all the trouble all around the world. When is the last time you saw a Christian saw the head off of a live American?
KILLER TEAM POSTS:
"unless your blind and don't see what is going on around the world, its Muslims stirring up all the trouble all around the world. When is the last time you saw a Christian saw the head off of a live American?'
are you friggin kidding me? Would we allow this to happen to the Germans who started 2 world wars? Please, you can't be that naive...... Lowes you lost my business.
Terrorist saw off heads not all muslims are terrorist you freaking hillbilly.
hmmm killer - unless you are a psychic you can't possibly know that all the hundreds of thousands of American Muslims whose lives the show is chronicling are all stirring trouble all around the world ?
Why is it so hard for you flaming idiots to understand that there are many many normal everyday folks who just happen to be muslim. They are no different from you or me ...unless of course "you" happen to be a raging racist.
No Steve, unfortunately we can't. Remember 911...
Well we saw Timothy McVeigh blow up the Oklahoma state building. We rode into Iraq and Afghanistan like the crusades. Then there was Colombine. Oh yeah Virgina Tech too.
How many "Christians" end up in jail for murder, rape, etc? So if you think one group is different or special compared to another, you are wrong.
This show is not "stirring up trouble" any more than Swamp Loggers or Swamp People or whatever you call it is...Hillbilly Wedding...World's Dumbest Criminals...etc etc etc....just shows more bigotry...if they had ignored the whiners out there, none of this would be in the news.
Steve is right...can't we all just get along?
Apparently not....
Good for Lowes! I will make sure I shop there even more from now on.
Senator Lieu needs to be thrown out of office. After all, it was Muslim extemists that brought down the Twin Towers. I certainly don't want to watch a show about Muslims. All this show is attempting to do is numb the American people so we aren't paying attention to what they are doing in our country. They are slowly bringing Sharia Law to America. Now that is what I expect Lieu to be fighting against instead of this issue of Lowes pulling commercials from TLC's "All American Muslim". As if there is really such a thing as an all American Muslim.
I wonder if he goes to such extremes when Christians are being targeted. I have a feeling that's a big NO!
I thought the story was about an advertiser who pulled there ads from a TV show. I have never heard of or watched this show. Perhaps it has to do with ratings?????
To stereotype all Muslims as violent is small minded, hateful, unChristian and basically inhumane. There are "Christians" in Africa gang-raping, mulilating and mudering right now. The Irish Republican Army (who are made up of Christians) until recently were murdering people in terrorist acts. There are fundamentalist Christians in this country who rationalize murdering doctors who have performed abortions Etc. But I don't condemn all Christians for the acts of a few misguided people. Every religion has those who only see the hate of the "other".
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Justiceforall: Yes it is true that not all Muslims are terrorists, however, 99% of the terrorist are Muslims. Get a clue.
Mdsj: Timothy McVeigh, the Colombine shooters, the VA Tech shooters - none of them committed their crimes in the name of Christianity. However, all of the recent terrorist activity throughout the world HAS been committed in the name of Islam. If you can't tell the difference between the groups, you are truly blind in your ignorance.
Steve and Bluepanther - Sure, we can all get along. Just as soon as the Muslim extremists quit trying to kill Christians and Americans!
You people need to get a clue. Like it or not, we are at war with Muslim extremists.
mdsj, how many of those killed in the name of Christianity?? That is the point I think people are trying to make here. I fully support Lowe's decision. Besides, they have the right to advertise whenever they want. They are the ones spending money on it and they are the ones who stand to gain or lose business from it. It is their choice!
It's Lowe's advertising budget. they get to spend it where they choose. I don't have a problem with them choosing not to spend it where they are only reaching less than 3% of their potential customers. Nor should they waste their money if it is upsetting their other potential customers. What's the problem?
remember who started the 911, who took over the controls and flew the planes that killed thousands of good Americans. Oh, and don't forget they killed their own that day as well.
Get along, yes they can all abide by the US way of life or get the hell out.
Blue Panther--I agree with you--BUT--IF Lowe's had chosen to no longer advertizing on "Swamp Loggers" or similar shows because they do not (or their shoppers do not) like the message such shows send, that is ABSOLUTELY their right.
Frankly, I'd also like to pressure companies to stop advertizing on stupid shows like the Kardashian 'multi-plex'.
But the fact is, the show trying to put a normal face on Muslims does NOT (conveniently) show ANY of the other side of the story--the women here who are still being forced to wear the Burkha, or are not allowed to get jobs/drive cars/get a college education BECAUSE of the religious/cultural beliefs makes it an 'apologist' show, and I do not want to give any validity to any show that ONLY shows the 'nice, fluffy side of Muslims in America. I know several families who are Muslims, and like them. But IF the Muslims in America truly want to be 'respected' here, it would go a long way toward that if they would recognize that America is NOT just a place where they can make a lot of money because of its economic opportunities, it is ALSO a place that recognizes the 'worth' of BOTH sexes.
And BTW--I feel the same way about the show 'Big Love'--only it at least does not have as its motivation a desire to convince America that off-shoots of the Mormon church should be allowed to treat women like that.
NO! muslim countries hate Americans. It is part of the religious belief system.
Everything's just swell until that first raghead explodes...
@ killerteam:
That line says to me that it is CHRISTIANS who have started and stirred up the trouble that's going on amongst the religions in this country. Educate yourself beyond your backwoods pig screwing ways before you make yourself look like a moron! The 1st Ammendment protects freedom of RELIGION... I repeat RELIGION... not freedom of CHRISTIANITY!
All arguments about whether Muslims are good or bad aside, Lowe's can spend or not spend their advertising dollars wherever they damned please.
Can't we all just get along?
Dumb question! If we could,the world would not be in the mess that it is in.
As for this issue and where Lowes stands on it. I may or may not agree with Lowes, but I do respect the fact that they have taken a stand and do not appear to be bowing to pressure. It is long past the time that any minority group should be able to dictate to any business, just how they do business or in this case, who they choose to sponsor and who they do not.
I have not to date watched this stupid show as I am not a fan of the so called TV reality shows. I have no plans to watch it in the future because it simply holds no interest for me. For now at least, America is still a free country and we are still free to support who we want to support (as far as TV shows go that is)and to watch a TV show or change the channel or turn off the TV entirely.
We don't have a Lowes in the town I live in. That being said, simply on the basis of this article alone, it would not effect my shopping or not shopping at Lowes if we had one. In fact it just might cause me to at least enter the store and see what they have for sale and what the prices are compared to Home Depot.
Bottom line: No one ethnic or religious group is more or less important than the other. If we are going to be careful not to offend one group and not worried about another, then we are guilty of prejudice at least at some level. I say treat them all equal. If they get offended. Tough! They can always leave for a more friendly country, if they can find one!
Ya Keith Ellison,
Keep on talking about that "First Amendment." The funny thing is that your religion does NOT BELIEVE in America's First Amendment. In Islam, there is no freedom of religion- it's either ISLAM (translation: submission), OR ELSE!
I'm not a big fan of religious doctrine and dogma from any faith. I especially don't like the fact that a religious organization can control a large corporate giant like Lowes with threats of a boycott. This is a very sad affair indeed.
wow, I like how these idiots can't think for themselves, and only join with he majority. You have a brain, and killer team, the guy who tried to kill Obama saying Obama is the anti Christ, shot at the white house, a Christian, saying he is Jesus, see if he was Muslim, people would say, O he is a terrorist wanting Mohammad to come and massacre the world, what a double standard. Their are a billion plus Muslims in the world, if we all believed in blowing ourselves up, their would be havoc in this world, which their isn't. And in Ireland, Catholics and Protestants are killing each other in the name of religion, so don't give me that bull, Only Muslims kill in the name of their religion, which a minority do. White people took the land from the Indians, wasn't that a massacre. What about Catholics priest molesting little boys, what kind of religion is that.
Which is why this show is here. If Muslims can behave like Americans, why discriminate against them? Not all immigrants resist assimilation.
If we have to target immigrants, I'd say we target those who refuse to behave like Americans. Targeting people based on their country of origin or religion is nothing short of racism. It's a blanket rule that's unfair to a very large number of people.
and you are an idiot
Unfortunately muslims will always have trouble convincing people of european ancestory they are a religion of peace. In asia islam is considered a religion of peace because it was brought on the silk road by traders peacefully. Every contact in europe between islam and the people of europe was anything but peaceful. You notice I did not say between islam and christianity because the first contacts included islam and the gothic tribes in Spain who were still pagan. Europeans of gothic heritage fought islamic invaders in Spain and Austria. Master Bob you could call the action in Norway retribution since in the first contact between Islam and the germanic peoples the moors cut off the heads of the captured goths who were not people of the book.
If u people only knew, there is no bigger, more dangerous terrorist than the American govt. and it's corprations
The muslim carpet munchers are it again!
Many people in this country have become moronic tree hugging sheep just prime for slaughter. Open your eyes and look at it this way. The freedoms we all take for granted are being subverted by other cultures throughout the world to destroy this country's values by using our own media and taking advantage of the total ignorance of the weak minded people in this country who are always ready to believe whatever is thrown at them by our government or the media. Do you really think EVEN ONE of the many mostly Muslim countries in the world would allow a program, play, or any media production that promoted Christian values in their country? NO FRIGGIN WAY!!!! These people are using our constitution against us!! They know what they are doing and trying to accomplish....do you?
You gripe about Lowe's not allowing a television show it's right to free speech by pulling it's advertising but don't take into consideration Lowe's own rights to free speech by doing so. If they want to pull their advertising, so be it. Who cares what show it is?
I'm leaving now to shop at Lowe's. More power to them. Why would they want to advertise on a program like this one? Maybe Michael Moore can do a movie on the bad guys at Lowe's who do not financially support the Mooslims. Sounds like his kind of thing..
All you idiotic liberals dont like what Lowes is doing also dont like America. Why dont you all do us a favor and leave our country. We would be better off without the liberals and muslims. I also read that the muslims wouldnt hate us if we didnt invade them is a bunch of croc. I was overseas when muslims attacked children and other innocent people befor we attacked those suppose muslims that are loving. They hate Western countries because we dont believe in what we believe in. I support Lowes and I am glad that there are some who will not kiss the muslims rears.
So, am I right to think that all of you who support lowes, hate all muslims??? That is the jist of what I am getting, that muslims are bad people? Cant we seperate someones religion from their identity? The world is not that black and white. There are good people who call themselves christians, and good people who call themselves muslims, just as there are horrible disgusting people who call themselves each as well. Maybe you should actually try watching the show with an open mind, but you wont because people love to hate.
@Bob809876: Muslim carpet muncher? Carpet muncher is a slang term for a lesbian.
The big question is how can devote Muslims say they believe in "religious
freedom" when they have the following dictates that must be followed to be a
true Muslim:
From Allah's Book of Recitations, the Qur'an
In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful ...
"O believers, take not Jews
and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Whoso of you makes
them his friends is one of them. God guides not the people of the evildoers."
9:51
"This is the recompense of those who fight against God and His Messenger, and hasten about
the earth, to do corruption there: they shall be slaughtered, or crucified, or
their hands and feet shall alternately be struck off; or they shall be banished
from the land. That is a degradation for them in this world; and in the world to
come awaits them a mighty chastisement, except for such as repent, before you
have power over them. So know you that God is All-forgiving, All-compassionate."
5:32-33
"And when Allah revealed to
the angels, saying: 'I shall be with you. Give courage to the believers. I shall
cast terror into the hearts of the unbelievers. Strike them above the necks,
smite their finger tips!' " 8:12
"If you gain mastery of them in battle,
inflict such a defeat as would terrorize them, so they would learn a lesson and
be warned." 8:57
The one goal of Islam since it's founding is to in fact establish a world Islamic
Theocracy.
I would have to agree. Everyone should read the article " The Myth of Peaceful, Moderate Muslims". Just type the title into the search engine. Here's a little excerpt:
If Lowes does not want to promote the Muslims that's Lowes perogative and proper to let them decide. The fact is the Muslim agenda is as stated in their Koran, to take over the world and force Sharia law down every ones throat. when they grow in numbers , so will their demands. in fact its already started its just a matter of time. remember to them the only good non Muslim is a dead non Muslim.
I wonder if Lowe's management took into account the lost business from people who no longer show there because they do not support this xenophobic congressman? I will not shop at Lowes instead supporting Home Despot and a local lumber yard even if I have to wait a day or so for the item.
Happy Holidays to Jews, Pagans, unbelivers, Buddhists, and the new religion to celebrate a holiday in December despite there being no evidence that Jesus was born on the 25th, Christians.
Good riddance to xenophobes, bigots and Christian fundamentalists.
I am a 12 year and running employee of Lowe's. GREAT COMPANY to work for!!
I do not want our company to advertise during a Muslim show in America or anywhere else! As a share holder in the company I am very proud that the decision was made to not advertise to these people and their sympathisers.
I am sure that those Army guys and girls at Ft. Hood in San Antonio were killed by anti muslim fanantics or Christians. Any religion that promotes violence is not a true religion from any God. I don't believe in any religion but when someone wants to kill you if you don't believe in theirs that crap!!! Go Lowes
They are using the media and the freedom against us. In Islam you could Lie to a non-Muslim and a Muslim will not give his brother up to non-Muslim too.
who the hell is mohommed? why are 99% terrorist muslim ??? lowes would probably lose more money by advertising on the show than they would have made
Epistemologist - good for you! Shop where you want, do what you want! THAT IS the American way! The very way that muslims want to subdue and defeat and, if they have their way in this country you will no longer be able to do what you want and shop where you want. People who don't like islam - the muslim religion don't like it not because they're xenophobes but because they know what the qua'ran - their holy book says. It instructs the "faithful" to kill those who will not convert. It tells husbands to beat their wives but not in the face as to not leave "evidence" of the beating. These are the people you're supporting. These are the people who killed thousands of Americans on American soil. Why don't you try moving to Afghanistan and see how "free" you can be there? And BTW there is evidence that Jesus was born on Dec 25th. The calendar then is different than the calendar we have now.
Lowe's have the right to focus their advertise in to the group they want to market their sales, this is about business and what happened is that program is about Muslims , propaganda for people that practice the Islamism , however many stockholders disagree in to put their money doing propaganda for a religion they do not profess. Nothing wrong with that , what about Muslims company advertising in a Christian Show , don't do their communities will do the same?
Luv2GoFly
You, are misinformed. Timothy McVeigh, committed his act of terrorism against the American people on the anniversary of the Waco incident. He did it in an act of solidarity with the Branch Davidians and because he believed they were massacred by the Federal Government. It was as nutsy-Christian it can be.
As an aside , the VA Tech massacre was by one lone nutcase, not multiple.
Also, can you back up your claim that 99% of all terrorism is by Islamic radicals-not to say that I support Islam in any way-just that I believe your claim is false and you are simply using rhetoric to back a factually invalid argument.
help me write a song ;; ...cat piss smell'n shoper's... make me hold my nose...it's where a real man... buy's his panty hose...the Muslims said with a wink infidels shop at Lowes... til it blow's...GIT'R DUN...
Bike boy
Where you get your facts , what are you smoking.
I will say that i am not surprised by what i am reading on this thread from the ignorant bigots! they all sound like the Glenn Beck, Faux News scumbags! The majority of Muslims are not terrorist just like the majority Christians are not bigots you stupid bigots need to get out and travel the world sometimes and then only then you will see that you are wrong about the Islamic people and their culture. I just canceled my Lowes account today that i have had for 3 years and not by a single nail from there again.
Abolish religion and you're a third of the way there... Eliminate "money" and you're now at two thirds the distance. Then when people learn to "live the law"... Then you'll know we've made it...
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@ Bob Martinez: The Vatican and The Crown come to mind, let alone the "Clan of 13"... But even what you said is over the heads of most. ~_o
Actually USMC28 the fact is, that if you read my post above (1.41) in the first paragraph, a majority of that has already happened in England. Didn't the Pakistanis, who came to England, first start off small and then demand Sharia Law?
Are you really so blind that you don't want to see what's in front of you?
USMC28
I'm glad you travel in the Islamic countries, can you read your Bible in the streets of Cairo or any other Muslim country like they do here, the answer is no. And about culture is not part of their culture the honor killing. So please don't talk about bigots.
If you were really in the Marines, and saw your brothers slaughtered by these cowards then you are the type that would cower and shake. You are a spineless excuse for a soldier.
"unless your blind and dont see what is going on around the world, its muslims stirring up all the trouble all around the world. When is the last time you saw a Christian saw the head off of a live American?"
Did you ever hear of a Muslim member of the IRA or the Tamil Tigers? How about all those abortion clinic bombers and school shooters in this country or that nut case in Norway last summer? Weren't they all "Christian"??
EVERY religion has it's nut cases, as evidenced above....
Good for Lowe's! American Muslim (generally an oxymoron) is nothing more than a bs propaganda outlet.
Where were all the American Muslims after 9/11?!
er2cc if you were in front of me i would slap the taste out of your mouth!!! who in the hell do you think you are calling me spineless, your the spineless coward. I have been to Islamic countries throughout my time of service to my country as a Hard Core Marine and from my experience the majority of Islamic people try to live a normal life just like you and i do here in America, and yes you do have some of them who are fringe extremest just like we have extremest Americans groups here. Oskar-1391552 now why would i want to walk in the streets of Cairo and read the Bible for what reason that is a stupid comment. I bet you didn't know that there are Christians that live in Egypt did you!! If i did do that i don't think anybody would bother me anyways!! and Unhappy 1583758 you can continue to be that way! all of you neo-cons need to get back into your holes.
Semper Fi Mac!!
"Tactical Hudna"
http://thedoctori.newsvine.com/_news/2008/07/01/1628994-tactical-hudna-and-islamist-intolerance
Which is an except from: http://www.meforum.org/1925/tactical-hudna-and-islamist-intolerance
The following is probably true of Islame brainwashed Muslims as well:
Too bad they ain't got the b@lls to fight their BS religious leaders.... Too scared of a mythical hell.
Why would we want to leave our country? I don't mix other people's religious beliefs with my social nor personal life regardless of what cult they belong to. I spend an average of at least a thousand $s a month at Lowes and will continue to spend the same at Lowes. I don't care what stand they have just so long as they continue the service they have been giving me faithfully throughout the years.
I don't care if the muslims have a tv show or not. I wouldn't allow it to be watched in my home anymore than I would a christian or other religious made to make money shows.
I for one am sick and tired of ALL religions! All they do these days is h-a-t-e. The followers of every single one act like cult members. I am tired of all the mixing of politics and religion, too; they do not mix.
I live in America where there is suppose to be freedom of religion. I am tired of some thinking that their religion is the only religion. This is why I am no longer a religious person: it is all words. No one walks the way their beliefs talk and if they do not like what their beliefs teach, they change them to suit them. Have at! Just don't cram any of your religions down my throat!
The biggest devils in the world are religious bullies - whether they are Catholic, Jewish, Muslim, or Christian!
Quit wearing religion on your sleeves, people! Master your own religions for yourselves before you start passing judgement on others! When you get perfect, then you can tell others what to think, say, and do! If you think you are perfect already, see a shrink - you need help!
"I would have to agree. Everyone should read the article " The Myth of Peaceful, Moderate Muslims". Just type the title into the search engine. Here's a little excerpt:
i like Lowes and the quality products they sell...if they don't want to advertise on the show that's their business...bet home depot doesn't pick it up either...hope they sponsor me... i could use the money...plain bob 2012...
USMC28;
Be careful what you ask for spineless coward. You and your Marine rhetoric don't scare me, I've beat down a lot better men than you. Oh yea I don't slap. So you might have a surprise waiting.
Yeah, Yeah er2cc I'm not there and your not here to test that theory of yours out, but if we were to meet up by chance i highly doubt you be talking the crap you talk and i highly doubt you would put a beat down on me! again your the true coward!! stay behind your computer screen talking your trash because that's all you conservative bastards do is talk trash!! BTW i don't slap either.
of COURSE Lowe's gets to decide where to put it's ads...and everyone else gets to decide they can boycott, disagree with and otherwise NOT support this cowardice...this unAmerican spineless bigotry masquerading as "playing it safe". Since when does hatred toward any religion get to masquerade itself as patriotism and then expect real Americans to just shut up about it? Lowe's: this is just got to be one of the dumbest stunts of all time. Shame on you!
i only fear two things... my wife and chuck norris...he only fears one thing..that wife...she's bad...
Geez...sure some closed minded people around here!
As if Christians are nothing but do-gooders who only want to...spread their religion via missionaries into countries that don't want to hear it...kill each other, as in Protestants vs. Catholics in Northern Ireland...do like Timothy McVeigh and blow up buildings and kill children...spread ridiculous fear mongering by claiming the U.S. is going to adopt "Sharia Law"...hold Koran burnings at a so-called "church" in Florida...invade Muslim countries because they have "WMDs" and are going to use them on us...
And yet, all those closed minded people here can do is spout the same old inane crap that has been proven over and over and over again to be nonsense. Not all Muslims are terrorists, and those who insist they are will be the ones to lead us down the garden path and toward destruction...
a2Phil: Really, I don't recall Christ ever saying "convert or die" unlike Mohammad.
DG_W: You should be grateful that you live in the US. Those other muslim countries you spoke of, do you think they would like having someone who's an atheist in their midst? You would be just as guilty as someone who is a christian. You think all of you're intellect is going to convince them that you are on their side? All I can say is haha.
"er2cc if you were in front of me i would slap the taste out of your mouth!!" You are not only a coward you are also a liar.
Ref #1.60
Lowes will now get all my hardware business.
Today I issued an order to all my handymen and contractors that any invoices presented for Products bought at Lowes will not be reimbursed.
As we purchase directly or through our contractors hundreds of thousands of dollars in supplies each Month (Yes Month) with tens of thousands from Lowes they store they mostly use will certainly feel the loss, I personally called that stores Manager and made sure he knew why.
I also have instructed our corporate charge accounts be closed.
We will not support any company that engages in bigotry to gives in to bigotry. Discrimination will not be tolerated.
Sounds to me like you will be paying your contractors right out of your pocket instead. It wouldn't matter to me if you honored my Lowes credit or not, you would still pay off my invoice or I'd have a mechanics lein on your business in a heartbeat.
frankly;;it's not bigotry...the show suck's...they should do a home improvement show and stay away from religion and politically theme crap...it's sad that you are that inclined to try and hurt anyone's business...you being a business man your self...have you ever seen something didn't work for your best interest and decided to go another way...it happen's...
The Zionists have done a great job in alienating Muslims! Its not only their phobia, insecurity and paranoia in this case but diverting attention from their own doings in this country! Don't you ever forget Goldman Sachs, Lehman Brothers, Merril Lynch...These are the real threat to our society and security! They're pretty good at making monsters and scaring people. No wonder they call themselves Fienkestein, Rottenburg, Goldmann, or was it Frankestein?
When are people going to wake up and smell the bombs! Most terrorist attacks are done by groups of Muslims. Yes, there are the lone wackjobs who claim to be Christian or some other religion who kill, but it is only Muslims that kill the infidel in groups. They indoctrinate their children to hate Israel, America, etc. They indoctrinate their children to be willing to strap on a bomb and kill. It is only Muslims who believe their women must wear complete covering so a man may not be tempted by them and commit a sexual act with them. Get that, in the Muslim world, its not the man who's guilty if he wants a woman sexually, its the woman who's guilty because she may have shown them an earlobe and then she's stoned! Christians believe in going to the mission field where nonbelievers are to minister to them about the saving and loving grace of Jesus Christ. Political correctness is killing this country and you liberal puppets are falling right into this ridiculously stupid trap!!!
I deal with contractors all the time. They do not present their invoices from conducting their business and supplying their services to me for payment. They complete the jobs I contracted with them and get my sign off once they have satisfied me that the job is complete to my satisfaction. Where they purchase their parts from which they need to perform their contracted service with me is none of my business which is why I also take extended warranties on all parts and services.
Maxi, are you really that naive and blind? When you call someone a Zionist, you are talking about a Jewish person. When you call someone a Zionist, you are a out-and-out racist no doubt about it!
i guess i could write a script for a new show... staring the one and only... plain bob...name of the show...Plain Stuff I Bought at Lowes...
Hmmm MrIndia unless you, Flag Waver & the idiot & culturally challeged bias moron named Justiceforall-3257287 are all very closely related to Helen Keller then you have no real excuse for not knowing what the rest of the world knows about the muslim religion in general. The purpose of the religion, not the radicals but the religion as a whole, is to convert or destroy not get along. You can try to spin the peaceful religion proganda B.S. all you want but fortunately the rest of us can read too and we know what that damn qur'an says. All of us Americans are not push overs, you'll see.
I would have to agree with noiwontyesiwill, even though the constitution does give the right of freedom of religion I believe that our fore fathers never dreamt of a religion that would conflict with the current standing laws of this nation. I believe that any religion whose basic believe system that would contradict that nations' laws could not be practice here. I say all this because of a "American Most Wanted" episode that depicted a ritural killing of 3 daughters by the father here in America who then fled to a back to his home country that convienently had no extradition treaty with US. That leads me to a point could a devout Muslim actual come to America and still practice their faith properly because of their strict belief system that their faith is? So that leads me to a serious question, why have the Muslims' come to live here? Have watered down their faith to live within the context of this nation's majority approved laws or are they here as 5th column to help bring down this nation? What I need to also ask is WHY would any self respected Muslim come and live in any country where their faith would be in direct conflict with that country's laws? I can not believe that they are so ignorant of that nation's laws that they would not know about the conflict with their own faith, that they would purposely expose themselves to the temptations that the nation would offer. Of course we could just say that they are here as missionaries of their faith as Christians have done for centuries, but I really dont't think so. As for Lowes They've right as any American Company has to do what they feel is right both morally and financially sound. As for the rest It's the thought that counts
a2phil:
Where in the BIBLE is stated what those christians are doing?
Where are the real Americans. The US was founded on the belife All men are created equal, and we have freedom of religion among our basic rights.
Why are most of you trying to turn the US into the Christian Iran. Since when did the US become a country where only one religion is allowed? Are we going to start killing all non-Christian? Are we going to deport anyone who doesn"t own an american car? Who choose's who is the true American. What about the Muslim's who serve in the US Armed Forces? Do we tell them thanks for serving but now you have to give up your religious freedom because some think it Un-American to be Muslim.
The Third Reich supported views that mirror what is being posted here. Have we fallen so far that US citizen are starting to sound like supporters of the Third Reich? Is this what we want to become?
"why would i want to walk in the streets of Cairo and read the Bible for what reason that is a stupid comment. I bet you didn't know that there are Christians that live in Egypt did you!"
USMC28
What is stupid is to think that Christians livein Muslim countries with the same rights than Muslims. Christian Coptic are manslaughter , their Churches burned all over Middle East and living as a second class citizens. Did you really travel Middle east? Get your facts straights.
If you want to send them back to where they come from, you're going with them simply because you and your kind are their cousins, I don't see any difference between you and them, you're from the same race and same heritage, the only difference is that you know the skill of how to milk people and they don't, that's why it makes them mad to do the things they do! In fact your type are as extreme as they're but just in different ways!
9/11 happened because our CIA run by AIPAC had promised the moron Bin Laden that if he would use his family money to fight the Russians they'll help him to overthrow the Saudi kingdom but guess what happened?!
Killings in Middle East and Africa, is another example of CIA intervention! Its just been easier to deal with one person (a dictator) than spending money lobbying in other countries parliaments or political system! Do you get that Frankestein?
The more I go deep into this post, the more I realize that the end of humanity is coming. I have come to the point to be ashamed to be classified as a human, I would rather be a dog or some other animal, at least I wouldnt suffer reading all this stupidity.
When will people understand that religion is to be kept within yourself, as a guide for you to choose the right path in life. When will people stop developing opinions on others based on propaganda. Sadly I realized that it will never happen. I wish I could do something...
I'd have to say that as the Bible is written there can only be one true road to follow with faith..
In the words of faith I no of no other religion that hides and is not beloved to express its companionship and love with outspoken support to all people and of any religion, other than +.
Lusitania I respect your opinion but remember, it is yours...
Other people may think differently, their right to think cannot be denied, sadly there are people who try to do so...there are many ignorants in this word.
You shouldn't have to pick sides or even think about it just tell me who you are works.
Not restoring comment # 2.1. Let;s not smear an entire group of people based off of the actions of a few.
Justiceforall-3257287 and MrIndia, don't respond like this. See # 1 of the Code of Honor.
You are both suspended for a day.
Comments # 2.8 thru # 2.11 deleted for being off-topic.
wryobsever, don't make racist comments please. You are suspended for a day for violating rule # 5 of the Code of Honor.
Steph-1811337, a-3303281, The Great Stephano, ray montoya, USMC28, er2cc, you are all suspended for a day for violating rule # 1 of the Code of Honor.
Good Job Lowe's for sticking to your decision!
Their original decision was to advertise on the program... they did not stick by that decision, they wimped out and folded to a hate group. Still a "good job"?
That's right, more companys should be so brave as to stand up for what they believe is right. Lowe's will be getting my business for standing up!
NO! BOO Lowe's for collapsing under the weight of a hate group! Not all Muslims are bad just like not all Christians are good!
So if I am ultra religious, make my wife a second class citizen and tell her she has no rights and has to dress and act like I say........the progressive left will attack me on all fronts calling me every name from caveman to oppressive......
But if I call it islam....well then I get their full support?????????
Unfortunately until the muslims admit to the brutal treatment of europeans by the Moors and the Ottoman Turks and quit whining about the crusades. We will be at a standstill. You can't forgive someone who refuses to admit they did anything wrong while blaming you for something that happened around the same time. Muslims today still throw the crusades up as a reason for their actions. When Islam stands up and says killing my ancestors was wrong then and only then will I apologize for the crusades.
Lets not forget what they did to the Armenians!
Ask the Hindus in India about the religion of pieces.
The crusades where a direct result of Islamic conquest into Europe such nasty revisionist history at work!
The biggest hate group in America is called LIBERALS !!!! They seem to hate every aspect of the paradigm upon which this once great country was built. All the while, they love black racism, female sexism, any religion not christian, and hetero-phobia. Go figure!
Lowe’s has a right to advertise or not advertise on whatever show it pleases for whatever reason it pleases.
As for a boycott, I’ll bet that for every individual that would boycott Lowe’s over this two will step in to buy more stuff.
I figure you are a moron. But I don't hate you. I pitty you. Must be tough hating everyone but yourself.
The most ignorant people in the world are conservatives, the pot calling the kettle black is a sure way to show how moronic you are...The only hope for this country is for the Liberals to take it back from the Christian Fundamentalists who have taken over the Republican Party...I realize that you most likely, will only understand or be able to read part of this so, Just try to understand that the world is neither black nor white. And some day you will thank those of us who fought for your freedom to be as ignorant as you want to be...
I've actually watch the show, so I can make an informed opinion about it: The show itself is not pro-Islam or anything it simply presents the people on the show and their viewpoints. The show has no solidarity with anything it simply shows the peoples lives. However, what is shows makes you wonder about Islam. It really is backwards and stuck in the 1600s, with sexist rules, values that are out of date, and some "no uncertain terms" near-racist ideology.
And I do fully support Lowe's in that if they do not want to be associated with something they disagree with, they do not have to.
Lowe's is a piece of white garbage. worthless, just as muslims and mexicans, and christians are, pieace of ignorant @!$%#s!
Sorry US is being Punished:
Christians are not ignorant
Just those who use hate are.
Never ever mix up Christians and the 'religions; who purport to be Christian.
God & Jesus have very little to do with what passes for organized religion in America
My recipe: Start with outrage, add in two minutes on wikipedia, a quick google search, hit send and done. Here's what I wrote them!
"I was horrified to hear that you pulled your advertising from All-American Muslim! Shame on you. And the excuse you offered was almost worse! Muslims ARE Americans! Substitute black or jewish or blond for Muslim and you can see how wrong your move was.
To have your company's decisions altered by some bigoted and ignorant religious zealots is disgraceful. And cowardly. It gives the impression that you agree with their anti-Muslim rhetoric.
Farooq Kathwari - oh, what a scary name! He must want to kill all Americans...except for the fact that he is President and CEO of Ethan Allen furniture.
And what about comedians Dave Chappelle and the Daily Show's Aasif Mandvi? Are they American?
How about Jermaine Jackson? Or that evil Dr. Oz!?!?
I've always been suspicious of Iqbal Theba from that pro-terrorist show Glee! I can see why you wouldn't want people like that shopping at Lowe's!
What about Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan? He was a Muslim. I say was because he died serving his country as a US Army soldier in Iraq. You certainly wouldn't want to be associated with someone like that!
Same with Keith Ellison the congressman from Minnesota.
And Ahmed Zewail, the 1999 Nobel Prize winner in Chemistry.
And don't get me started about Kareem Abdul-Jabbar or Fareed Zakaria!
The list can go on, but I hope you get my point. You made a HORRIBLE, ignorant decision. But you can make up for it. Until then though, go with the knowledge that you have lost customers in me, my friends and my family."
Comment # 4 deleted for being a racist derail.
Alan-1863757, you are suspended for a day for violating rule # 5 of the Code of Honor.
OK... Who cares. Last time I heard, this country supported free enterprise. Where one can advertise where they please. They can choose not to support a racist show. I will say it is racist until I see a show called, "Christian in America"
yeah...cuz Christians are such a small group that nobody knows about...we should have a show that teaches Americans about Christians, oh wait...we already have like 100 of them on cable already. 700 Club comes to mind.
U R so smart eric...Props to your parents and your educators.
List the 100 shows, alphabetically so my simple mind can process it. I'm saying reality shows, ones the general public can watch.
Eric: sorry to disappoint you, but opposing Islam is NOT racist. Islam is a religion, not a race. There are people of many differing races and nationalities who are Muslim, to include white people. Your post is typical liberal crap - when you can't state and defend the facts, you revert to calling people with whom you disagree racist.
No you didn't. You said....
At no time did you say a reality show.
There are scores of Christian based programs out there. You know it too.
Or are you implying that the 700 club, the Duggards 19 and counting and any Sunday morning worship show is not seen by the general public?
Any show put out by Kirk Cameron is Christian based as well.
Either you need to convey what you're saying a whole lot better, or accept the fact that there are plenty of Christian based or themed shows out there.
Somehow a mass on EWTN just doesn't seem the same as a whiny show about how horrible all of us are to the poor muslims. Who by the way still publically call us infidels underserving of life. I'm an INFIDEL and darn proud of it.
You want Christian TV? Here's an entire network of it: The Christian Broadcasting Network.
Have you really never heard of the 700 Club?
And the general public can't watch the numerous Christian church shows that are on TV right now? You don't even need cable television to be overrun with Christian religious channels. I didn't have cable for the last 4 years and since network TV has gone digital about half the channels I received were Christian run religious channels. I don't think it has to be "reality" TV for people to watch.
Umm, I don't think Lowes advertises on there either. Not while I'm watching them at least.
Let me put it this way, A Christian show to shove its ideals down everyone's throats. The shows you mention are there for people with like minded ideas.
A race can be defined by a general group with the same religion, NOT just skin color you racist pricks.
NYMike: A lot of christians do not watch the christian broadcasting network because of so much false teaching that goes on there. So for you to say that it is "tons" of people who watch is completely outrageous.
Unhappy, I made no such mention of the Christian Broadcasting Network.
Might want to brush up on your reading comprehension skills a bit.
Nor did I ever use the word tons as you are quoting me as saying. Matter of fact, I laid no claim as to how many or few view Christian programming.
Any other misinformation you want to spread about me?
They do have a show like that... it's called "Jersey Shore."
Kudos to you on being in the minority of realizing that race is not just skin color, however:
and i stand my mine to no longer shop at their store...the chuch nuts can be the only ones to shop with them...i'll put my money into company that will help this country...
i guess muslims help you out by chopping off the heads of Americans huh?
Michael, your "entitlement" money won't be missed at Lowe's - go wave your made in Indonesia American flag somewhere else.
Sober up Michael- what is it you think the muslims have done to help this country? We, in the USA, still have the right to advertise how and where we choose...this isn't your beloved islamic country- it is America.
There isn't a company that helps the country.
Michael--Oh, well, since I have a Lowe's, a Home Depot, and a Mennards near me, I'll stop shopping at the other two to make up to Lowes for the loss of your business.
A company has the right to advertise or not where they want. The PURPOSE of such advertising is to increase the number of customers that come into their store and buy stuff. If they believe (and please note, no proof is necessary, only a belief) that continuing on this show not only will not HELP their market share, but will actually HURT it, they are WELL within their rights to stop such advertising. And you have the absolute right to boycott.
And I have the absolute right to 'counter' your boycott.
Lowes right under the US constitution to put their money where they want for whatever reason they want.
Funny how there are people on this thread praising Lowes for making an unpopular decision, claiming first amendment rights, and there are people mocking Michael for utilizing his first amendment rights by making an unpopular statement, calling him un-American.
if lowes had made the decision to pull the advertisement on their own, i wouldn't think twice about it. the problem is that they pulled it because of the whining of a hate group.
Well since the church nuts outnumber the atheist nuts I don't think Lowes has much of a problem. Merry Christmas Y'all. My first Amendment right in action.
i think that ppl need to open theyre eyes and see that all over the world there is good ppl and bad ppl its not the religion that is violent it is the ppl . there r cristians that r bad aswell as any other religion . i am american by birth and i used to be cristian but i chose to convert to muslim but that dont make me a bad person and my husband is from egypt and he is muslim and he dont have a mean bone in his body . some ppl just luv to hate because they dont understand the religion . as far as the show i truely support the show "all american muslim " i watch it every week and it is very educational.as far as lowes is concerned i would never shop there again.
I am thrilled that you are a peace loving Muslim, but how do you answer to the Imam at your mosque when he reads the Koran that tells you to convert people to Islam or kill them. Does your husband beat you as is required by Islamic law? You are fortunate not to live in a country with Sharia laws. Let's keep America that way. One way to overcome the extremists in any religion is for those who don't support the extremism to "rat out" those who intend harm to others and stop any violence to anyone.
"I've actually watch the show, so I can make an informed opinion about it: The show itself is not pro-Islam or anything it simply presents the people on the show and their viewpoints. The show has no solidarity with anything it simply shows the peoples lives. However, what is shows makes you wonder about Islam. It really is backwards and stuck in the 1600s, with sexist rules, values that are out of date, and some "no uncertain terms" near-racist ideology."
Sounds like ANY religion when taken to extremes...that's why I'm agnostic...
chuch nut? What is a chuch nut? Or do you mean Church? So I am a nut because I go to church? Obviously Michael-2780279 is not a christian. I am a nurse and I see God at work every day. I think those that don't beleive in God or do beleive in the hate against 'christians and jews' exampled in an earlier post of muslim 'bible' is indeed sad. Very sad.
We have the American Taliban right here! They're called the GOP!
Looks like people won't have to go to another hardware store to find pieces for their bombshelter they're building in their basement that their wives think is a "man cave". It wouldn't bother me if Lowe's is pulling their ads from a show of any kind, but they are doing it under the pressure of a fringe Christian hate group. I would rather spend my money to a company that has the spine to tell groups like them to stuff it, especially when there aren't enough customers who would give a damn to boycott them and risk lowering their profits anyway. They are the types of Christians that are trying to do what they accuse the Muslims of doing -- Dominating through fear and intimidation. Typical of a group with "Family" in their title.
Am glad that Lowe's decided to pull the ads.
Take a look at the people that spearheaded this. http://floridafamily.org/ It's just another radical group of religious followers.
They also urge the boycotting of Snickers, Orbit Gum, Skittles, Twix, Starburst and Hasbro to name just a few, as it doesn't fit into their narrow view of things.
I think it's worse that Lowes stopped advertising because another religion urged them to. Had they stopped because the company didn't like the direction the show was going, then there would be little issue.
FFA is doing nothing more than pushing their anti anything not devout zealot Christian agenda. They have called for the boycott of almost every product out there because they don't like the show that it is being advertised in.
Don't take my word for it. Visit the site for yourselves.
For all of you 1st Amendment fanatics please live by what you love so much. You want freedom of speech for those you support but want to deny the same rights to others. Any group even the ones you don't like has the right to boycott and ask support of their followers. When you make hateful statements about the religious right you are no better than what you think they are.
Having watched the Show I don't blame Lowe's for looking for any excuse to pull funding the show is a joke.
Stand up for religious fanatics all you want. It's wrong no matter what religion is spreading their brand of hate and intolerance.
Only if you follow Islam. They are the ones that spread hate and intolerance. The Koran says if you don't covert to Islam, they are to cut off your head. So any true Muslim hates you.
All Terrorists are Muslims…Except the 94% that Aren’t
Everyone is so concerned with Muslims being the terrorist, that is so funny. The link above takes you to the article with the title above and the article includes the FBI's own statistics that show 6% or less acts of terrorism are caused by Muslims with at least 42% being made by latinos (sorry guys my family is also latino so I am not saying anyone personally I am just showing the facts to the uneducated Islamophobians) The extremist whit left wing groups account for 24% of terrorists too. I agree and understand that everyone has their own choices and opinions but before anyone does so, you should at least make sure you have the facts beforehand otherwise you are just following someone else that more than likely has no true credibility of what they speak of. Lowe's did a stupid thing when they pulled their advertising sponsorship before finding out who was asking them to pull their advertising sponsorship and why they were asking them to do so. It is easy to talk yourself up and make yourself sound like you have credibility and know what you're talking about. What is even funnier, it is about the same if not easier to find out if the person that has been talking themself up to have knowledge and creditbility on a subject matter really has the evidence to back it up or not. I can gaurantee that most people just take another person's word for it most of the time and it is their laziness that makes them look, sound, and act as ignorant as the person they got the incorrect information from to begin with. How do you think these people with the many ponzi schemes got away for so long with everyone's money? They believed the person without checking their credibility or the facts. I am an educated white caucasian woman that was born a Christian but I always studied and learned about everything by making sure what I was learning was fact and true with credibility and evidence to support the information I was seeking which is why I am now a Muslim. I still believe in 90% of what I learned as a Christian the other 10%, I never believed even when I was a Christian. The other 10% actually coinsides with Islam for me. I have family that is Christian and I still love Christianity. I still have All my Bibles and I continue to read them in addition to the Quran. I am American in every way born and bred. I am an educated woman that is on the path to be an Engineer as well. Muslims are the least known and understood at this time and it is due to ignorance, to simply put it. Everyone that is writing the comments filled with hatred towards Muslims have obviously never taken the time to learn about Islam, ask questions of a Muslim, or taken any initiative on their own to make sure what they are hearing is true. They are simply believing that so many of the ignorant people speaking against Islam today are knowledgeable in Islam and have credibility and evidence to back up what they are saying but in reality, no one is checking to make sure what these people are true. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, just make sure it is an informed one. Who wants to tell their child later when asked "Why did you tell us this information was true if it isn't?" I somehow feel that no one wants to answer, "because I did not ensure the information I was given was correct so I in a sense let someone else make my decision for me." Take the time to educate yourself. I don't believe we are all to have the same thoughts, opinions, ideas, or anything else that makes us each an individual. God made us the way we are and gave us free will and we should use it. We should be embracing our diversity, not condemning people from our own ignorance.
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And Christianity says that if you don't accept Jesus you will spend eternity in hell.
really to root of the problem is moses and his serial killer/hate criminal ways and all the religions who developed from him. Jews/islam/christians. more have been killed in relation to those three hate-mongering religions than for any other reason.
The difference Don is you have the choice to spend an eternity there if you choose no Christian is forcing you to their beliefs, but when you have a sword hanging over your head to submit or die as is the case in many parts of the world at the hands of muslims, that isn't a choice.
Heather: I understand where you are coming from, but for us we can't understand your switch to Islam. It was a well known fact that Muhammed was considered "normal" when he was married to his first wife Khadijah, although he probably married her for her money. That marriage lasted 25 years. What we can't understand is that how a man can claim to be speaking for God and behave as he has done after he supposedly heard from God? In other words, he was more violent in his later years compared to that of his youth. Usually a person acts more mature with time, not less. Unless you think that God acts this way?
Don but they don't say cut off his head and hurry the process.I'll tell you that God loves you. I'll tell you that the way to heaven is through Jesus. But I won't say my Father says kill those who don't believe. I'll pray that you come to believe so we can spend eternity with God together. I'll tell you that Jesus told you to pray to Our Father, not His Father. At no time in the gospels does Jesus say go and kill the unbelievers.
I will make sure i buy as much as i can from Lowes now. Its about time that someone recognizes that if a Muslim follows the Koran, they are no friend of ours and we need to get them out of the country. Gee, look around the entire world and tell me who is making all the trouble..... Muslims, no matter where you look.
Then who's next? The Jews, what about the blacks? How about anyone who has red hair? How about anyone who's your basic tool, I guess thet means you'll have to go as well.
I concur,we must rid ourselves of the gingers.....
Seriously all this talk about a stupid ad,that no-one wanted to see anyways.On a show,no-one really gives a shyte about.
Let's be honest folks,is this news? No,it isnt,its an attempt to get overly emotional asshats to come out and flame each other,for a make believe issue.
Praise Allah,God,and The Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Don't you love this country? Do you want Muslims to take over and become exterminated because you are not one? They have a plan to take over everything. Blacks and Jews do not. Niether do red heads. You make me want to say bad words. Don't be so blinded.
Not every Muslim wants to "take over". The point of this show is to make you understand that there are Muslims out there who are pretty normal people.
And about the Jews... if they want to take over, violence wouldn't be one of their first options. The stereotype is that they manipulate you with money, remember? Or has that happened already, seeing that many big companies are owned by Jews?
So all that talk about how "Jews want to take over America by controlling the media and pulling the strings behind every president" never happened?
People want someone to hate, and apparently it's the Muslim's turn now.
If you read the Bible you would understand that the Jews are God's chosen people. It clearly says that " I will bless them, that bless you and curse them that curse you." God was talking about His chosen people the Jews. Find a Bible and read it!! That verse is not hard to find...there are plenty of Christians that would help you look it up so you could read it. I haven't watched the Muslim program because I knew it would be a program that would try to get people to turn Islam. They are also trying to get their Sheria Law into our law system or at least to get our courts to say they can have their own laws. They need to go to their homeland where they can do what ever they want to do. I will alway shop at Lowes now...and everyone I have talked to feels the same way. If muslims want to boycott Lowes, big deal!! This is funny!!!
No Spartan not every muslim wants to take over, but find me one that doesn't call me an infidel. They use infidel the way the KKK uses the "N" word and think we are less than human also. In fact if they had the power they would probably treat everyone not muslim the same way. Really listen to what they say and how they say it.
The big question is how can devote Muslims say they believe in "religious
freedom" when they have the following dictates that must be followed to be a
true Muslim:
From Allah's Book of Recitations, the Qur'an
In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful ...
"O believers, take not Jews
and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Whoso of you makes
them his friends is one of them. God guides not the people of the evildoers."
9:51
"This is the recompense of those who fight against God and His Messenger, and hasten about
the earth, to do corruption there: they shall be slaughtered, or crucified, or
their hands and feet shall alternately be struck off; or they shall be banished
from the land. That is a degradation for them in this world; and in the world to
come awaits them a mighty chastisement, except for such as repent, before you
have power over them. So know you that God is All-forgiving, All-compassionate."
5:32-33
"And when Allah revealed to
the angels, saying: 'I shall be with you. Give courage to the believers. I shall
cast terror into the hearts of the unbelievers. Strike them above the necks,
smite their finger tips!' " 8:12
"If you gain mastery of them in battle,
inflict such a defeat as would terrorize them, so they would learn a lesson and
be warned." 8:57
The one goal of Islam since it's founding is to in fact establish a world Islamic
Theocracy.
Carolyn - The Jews aren't Gods chosen people. That is another lie they perpetuate to spread thier non stop victimhood. Believe me the Jews use the Christians worse than any other religion, trust me that would stab you in the back faster than a Muslim. I am a Christian and this Jewish first attitude has to stop in the US. Stop putting Israel before your own country
And that means not putting OBAMA back in office!
OBAMA STANDS FOR: ONE BIG ASS MISTAKE AMERCIA
Let's see, Mathew 28:19: "Go ye therefore and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost"...
So Christianity doesn't have world domination as part of its agenda?
I would like to thank all Americans who will buy from Lowe's rather than Home Depot because they stand up to the ones that are trying to do harm to America or Americans I will switch all my business to Lowe's from Home Depot Because Home Depot helps Illegals get Jobs in this Country by letting them stand in front of their stores and make a mess out of are towns all they care about is their profits and not the towns they are located
Of course most cognitive individuals understand the difference between Teaching and Baptizing which are peaceful endeavors and the Muslim alternative which is submit or Die!!
"Of course most cognitive individuals understand the difference between Teaching and Baptizing which are peaceful endeavors and the Muslim alternative which is submit or Die!!"
So why have we "Christians" been doing the "submit or die" for the last couple thousand years (longer than Islam has been around)??? Every time that's just about the way it is, whether with the Crusades, the Inquisition, what the U.S did with the blacks and American Indians over the last 500 years, all the puppet governments the U.S set up world wide, need I go on??
Yay! for Lowes! Finally someone standing up for themselves!
Excuse me Moobs but that is in the Catholic version of the bible also in fact it was a recent reading at mass. Yes the Jews are God's chosen people. And Jesus was born a jew to a jewish mother and raised by a jewish father St Joseph. The basis of all christianity is judaism. We as christians should honor their first recognition of the true God.
I stand behind my words...... of all the terrorism in the world, muslims cause 99% of it. All terrorists may not be muslims but 99% of terrorists are muslim. Good grief people, will it take another 9/11 to wake you people up as to what these people want? Do you know their goal is to fly their flag over the White House? Have you not seen enough pandering by liberals to favor muslims? By golly I have, Muslims are being catered to while Christians are being persecuted right in this country every day... people, wake up..... Jesus is the reason for the season!
Your post is just a string of logical fallacies. 9/11 would have been prevented by having the door to the cockpit locked. Now it is. Now nobody can get in if the pilot doesn't want them to.
How are Christians, exactly, being persecuted? They are not. They are still the favored people in the country, with everybody catering to them. Are you pissy about the term "Happy Holidays"? Touchy much? You do realize that there is more than just Christmas around this time of year, don't you? Christmas/holiday marketing starts on Black Friday.
You want separation of Church and state as long as Christianity is exempt. It is not the role of our government to have Christianity as the state religion.
I was on the ground pulling people out of the rubble on 9/11. Where were you? Complaining about how persecuted you feel?
I could disprove you all day long, but I have things that need attending.
@Ionereb - Yes the original Jews were God's chosen people. When Jesus fufilled the new covenant (which the Jews reject) Christians became the new "chosen" people. This "chosen people" fallacy is something the Jews love to promote as they enjoy making lapdogs out of stupid Christians.
Christianity did not exist until well after Jesus died. Until the heads of Judaism ruled that those who follow a Messiah were not actually Jewish, Jesus' followers believed they were Jewish, following the Jewish messiah. Jesus was the "King of the Jews" not the "King of the Christians."
Jesus was never a Christian. Christianity was invented later.
this is a job for the black congressional congress!
yea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I will shop at yopur store forever and tell all my friends too also!!!!!!!!!!!!love this store
Wish I could vote FOR your post 100 times. About time a big bussiness stood up for america.
That is the most moronic statement yet "About time a big bussiness stood up for america." There are so many things wrong with that statement. Can anyone tell me what they are?
the South is rising again!
yeah ...apparently they didn't learn nothing from the past ....
I've been waiting
HA HA! I was wondering when this comment would come up. How long has the south been rising? I was born in CA, in the 70's, in a good christian home, raised with ranchers, lumberjacks and millworkers. I have heard "the south is rising again" from a lot of comic book strips and internet threads. All I really do is hear them complain. Is that what "the south is rising again!" means..."Look out...a whole lotta bee-atchin and moanin coming your direction."
MrIndia apparently you didn't learn nothing from school...redneck
Concerned citizen can't tell any difference in your use of redneck from the KKK's use of the "N" word . Dumb names to put somebody else down because you're not smart enough to come up with something intelligent. I'll take those hard-working farm boys black and white from the center 2/3rds of the country any day. Most of them have redneck values work hard, play hard and keep your word.
concernedCitizen : eh ? Can u explain that comment please ?
yeah should of said anything, not "nothing"... double negative..
Lonereb... I live in the south and yeah there is a huge difference.. trust me no one gets their panties in a twist over the word "Redneck" except i guess you.
Of Course, Lowes can do what they want...But I vow now, not to shop at Lowes. I am a contractor and spend thousands and thousands of dollars a year on construction supplies, I will not spend a dime at their stores...I am so sick of people in this country, telling me who are Americans and who are not...Keep on going Muslim in America, although I didn't watch you before, I know will...We must face this bigotry and hatred of other cultures head on....
i bet you are one of those towel heads too
If you like these people so much move over there with them. Obviously you have not read what they have done to Europe, they have taken over Spain, France and almost have England as well. They are a terrorist group and you need to educate yourself on the matter before you spout off nonsence.
Big time contractor, huh? Well you just keep kissing A with muslims and when they get a chance they will teach you a few lessons and you won't like them.
It's OK, the rest of us will shop there for you.
Who cares about there motives?
I'm sure you can buy towels somewhere else!
sonja---you have that right....I am watching them also and my aught 6 is not far away!
Speaking of hatred and bigotry Jahnsart, read the "Religion of Peace"'s quoran sometime! Images of an innocent old man being held without his diabetes medicine, images of innocent journalists being beheaded and idiots blowing themselves up along with numerous innocents are all perfectly acceptable within this "holy" book and its "peaceful" followers! Capitalizing the Q above would be lending the thing dignity that it doesn't and never will, deserve...
big time contractor, my bet is that you're some little dillweed living in your mommy's basement.
Mr. Jahnsart, I understand your taking the stance you have taken toward Lowes. They should have thought about what they were doing before they advertised and thought twice as much about it when they pulled their ads. I am am ordained Christian that is repulsed by the actions of fanatics of any faith. Muslims, Jews, and Christians are all sons of Abraham. Those that worship pray to the same God. I am also a proud American and I have some Muslim friends who are proud Americans too. Some of them were here in America on 9-11-01 and mourned with us over the attacks that day. I call on all Americans to pray for our country that we continue to have our freedoms and that we not give in to prejudice and hatred. God bless you all.
Simply put, Americans are those who behave like Americans. They're instantly recognizable from their behavior.
I can see home remodeling shows sponsered by lowes or home depot....
I can see hunting shows sponsered by remington or smith & wesson.....
I can see car shows sponsered by ford & chevy....
So shouldn't this show be sponsered by radio shack -your place for wiring and triggers, or akmeds fine suicide vest shop, custom tailoring free.
????????????????
Liar.
Typical bigots. No facts, just fear and hatred...Calling me names and saying I am a liar is right in line with the wackos who watch Faux Noise...Attack the messenger and not the message. Don't let the facts get in your way, then call everyone who disagrees with you, a liar and unamerican...You Christian fanatics and your ideology are bound to go where you belong, the way of the neanderthal.
Wow Jahn, you're dumber than I thought, you just showed all your bigotry, hatred and intolerance in one sentence. You know the same thing you are accusing others of.
tami-398671, you are suspended for a week for violating rules # 1 and # 5 of the Code of Honor.
A poorly rated, unwatched show that was a waste of advertising dollar.
I think your the only post that hit close to the truth. If the advertising was paying off in profit the store would keep it no matter what the controversy. It was probably a waste of money based on the ratings and they just needed the nudge to get out.
Yea the show was boring full of lies and hard to watch.
call 1 800PRAYERMATS....voice your dissention!
I think Lowe's has the right to pull whatever advertising they want to pull. If the muslims have the right to say and do whatever they want and the tv station has the right to air whatever they want then why would anyone not think Lowe's has the right to their opinions? This country was founded on freedom...and I am sick of people telling me that as a Christian I don't have the right to do this or do that. Muslims have no more or less rights than the rest of us and if a show pulled ads because of a Christian show would the same people complain? Get real...it is their advertising dollars and they can spend them however they want. They don't force you to buy from them and no one should try to force them into anything!
All I can say is----- BULLY FOR LOWES!! I for one will do all my business with LOWES!!!
Bought $55 of poinsettias this afternoon at Lowes! Support local plant farms!
This is America and we treat our foriegn neighbors with respect but don't try to change us. If you want your ways back go home
good for lowes, who in the hell wants to watch a dumbass show about muslims anyways
Right On!
About a million people per week, that's who.
ya right!!! I haven't talked to even one person that has watched that show. A million people! You gotta be kidding!!! They are just trying to get people to watch that show by saying that a million people watch it.. I am no fool..like you are!!
A million out of 200+ million not worth the advertising dollar. No wonder they pulled the ad. Bet spongebob gets better ratings.
So you are basing this on not knowing anybody who watches it? Your logic is very flimsy. Tell me, how many people do you know? Have you asked every single one of them if they watch this show?
You are basing your thoughts purely on your own ignorance. And people wonder why Americans are viewed as dumb. You make the rest of us look bad.
Thanks for the laugh! Game over, you lose. Insert quarter and try again some other time.
A million views per week is pretty solid for what seems to be a niche show.
Sunday Night Football, the most popular show in terms of views, gets only 18 times more viewers (over 18 million out of 313 million). The vast majority of television shows don't get nearly as many viewers as you might think. The most watched show ever, the 2011 Super Bowl, had 111 million viewers (contrast that to weekly football's 18 million).
Spongebob is an incredibly popular show among its target audience, an undeniable hit that has won numerous awards over a decade, and manages only about 5 times as many viewers as this show. Of course, the only thing I could find about its first season was that it enjoyed "modest success," as compared with its current breakout success.
True football gets higher ratings and that is the point. The advertising buck goes where it works the best. In retail and I worked in retail for 25 years they know one lost customer actually means 25 people who never even become customers. One bad experience loses far more than one persons business. I really take what I read on sites like this with a grain of salt as they say. The same people who decry Lowes actions don't know the difference between an illegal alien and a native born hispanic and trash both of them every day on these sites. Must be because those illegal Mexicans are Christian.
It's the likes of the biggots that is the reason that this show was made in the first place, but in an attempt to stem the prejudice against them, idiot conservatives see local terrorists in training. These Muslims were born here or came to the US legally to get away from the extremes of their culture and live how they want to live.
FU all!
It is well known they are in training in many places in the U.S.. You are ignorant and stupid for using the mark of the beast in your moniker too! They need to be sent back where they came from because their intent is violence!
I know why I used the mark of the beast- to piss you biggots off!
Its about time someone took a stand, our government is so lilylivered that they just want to roll over and let them step on over. These people are terrorist and they have cells all over the US, we need to kick them out. Europe is almost completely Muslim at this time. The only people that want to look the other way is the uneducated uninformed non readers in the US. If we don't stop them now, they will take us over, never believe that they are a peaceful group, they are not. We have a Muslim President so he just does not care as he wants to ruin America as well. I applaude Lowes and will shop there more since they took this stand.
When was your most recent trip to Europe? How long did you stay? In which countries? Inquiring minds...ya know.
Get a Television!! It's a rectangular box that shows news. You can buy one at most stores. Muslim riots are everywhere around the world as they keep taking over most countries. They are overthrowing rulers and then will put in their Muslim Brotherhood rulers.
Canada wouldn't let anyone come and live in their country now that was not born there. They are lots smarter than we are!!
4 weeks ago. Stayed 2 weeks. Because of work go about once every 2 months. Italy, Germany, France, U.K. It's not the Europe I used to know that's for sure.
them crazy foreigner's...are just over populating every where...ain't they...and i ain't left arkansas...
Maybe it will be safer to shop at Lowe's, so go ahead and boycott
Funny thing, just a couple days ago I went to shop at Lowes to give my support and there were some obviously islamic shoppers there supporting Lowes too!
good for lowe's!
I'm so behind Lowe's decision. There is a bigger picture to the show. It's not tolerance, it's indoctrination. I would also venture to say it borders on treason. I'm so tired of our country bending over for every whining nut case out there. Lowe's is a private enterprise, they can do what they want without some nut senator calling for a boycott. It's none of his business. It's called free enterprise.
a free enterprize that the senator is getting rich from! Lowes give him what he wants [a bribe] the american way of government!
You're saying that Lowe's isn't "bending over for a whining nut case"? I can't believe that there are people out there who are convinced every Muslim is hell-bent on destroying the west or some bullcrap like that. Some radical right wing group says that a show on TLC of all networks (the same network airing shows like "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition") is going to destroy American values and Lowe's pulls their advertising. That sounds like bowing to the wishes of a nut case group to me.
Americans need to stop being so goddang intolerant. Yes, there are terrorist groups that call themselves Muslim that assassinate, murder, and cause destruction. But these people aren't Muslims. The Muslims I have met are just as peaceful and loving as most Christians can be. And to say there have never been any terrorist-like "Christian" groups is just foolish.
Oh yeah so the senator is a whining nut yet you use such words as "indoctrination" and "treason". How possibly can you be taken seriously?
Americans Intolerant: You sir are a dumbass how many christians churchs do they allow in Afgoofastan 00000000000000 Now that's intolerant. I say when Muslins stop spreading hate hell will freeze over. Muslin religion should not be allowed in this country they are Anti American and Anti Christian. Let them sleep in the desert with their camels like the animals they are.
That's not very Christian of you now is it, Mo Monster? You say they won't stop spreading hate but look at you and others on here who are crying out about this simply because someone is Muslim and not Christian. Like I said earlier, not all Muslims are the same. There are screwed up things going on, but there a lot of Muslims who are just like you and me. We need to accept others, not continue to perpetuate all this hate.
I spent 3 years in Spain, travelled to other Euopean Countries and to the Middle East during my tour. Some of the worst conditions were due to Muslim influence. Their whole philosophy is based on becoming the ruling religion by whatever means necessary. They fight among themselves when there is dissent within their own faith. Some Muslim women I met were jealous of Christain freedoms, though they'd never admit it openly to their family. They also felt cheated because the men have the right to break the rules and go unpunished where as the women are strictly controlled and micromanaged to live a certain way. Much of Europe has a strict policy with the Muslim faith, you can maintain the faith but don't expect to go about spreading it or expecting anyone within their country to adhere to the same rules. Other than London, there isn't a lot of love of the Muslim faith outside of the middle east. Looking back at European history it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out why.
I don't think that justifies what happened here though. I mean it's a T.V. show called American Muslim. It's not "indoctrinating" anyone. I'm not saying you should give up your religion and become Muslim. Rather, you shouldn't immediately target,label, ostracize, etc. anyone just because they say there are Muslims. There are plenty of Christians who act like their religion has to be dominant too. Look at the people who originally protested against the show. Be accepting of others and don't be assertive with your religious beliefs, I guess.
I have as much right to post my thoughts as you do. Maybe the word treason should be used more often.
Go ahead and be tolerant. See where it gets you. Especially if you're a woman.
If you want to hold on to such close-mindedness and believe that every Muslim is bad and going to destroy us, go ahead. In the end, having love and being open to peace, even when others are not, is what is going to matter. "Resisting" a supposed invasion and corruption of our society by millions of people you paint with a broad and relatively inaccurate label is the thing that isn't going to get us anywhere.
Last I heard Extreme Makeover was sponsered by Sears and is an ABC show of which reruns are carried on TLC but also on CMT. It is not a TLC show but it's syndicated reruns were bought by TLC.
I will continue shopping at Lowes and am glad they exercised their right to remove their ads.
Anyway, it's a TV show that will eventually be cancelled, so get a life for those are wining.
learn to spell oss hole. It is whining
It's spelled @!$%# - you whiner!
Eff you Stephano
wow this is an acid bunch. please stop your whining. (notice its spelled correctly)
i support lowe's decision, we need to understand what that old saying is a sheep in wolf clothing, were not kidding our selfs, there will be and uprising of muslims its just time and how many of them our here and how many that are coming here. open yours eyes, they don't like our way of life or any thing about our christianity. if your not one of them then they would rather see you dead, don't fool your self, just read the one on top of this one( (anana-1382213 ) ) there are many more, they come here and are offended by us celebrating most of the stuff that has been for generations, ( ( christmas ) )( ( easter ) ) and they bash everything we do, they spit on british soldiers coming home from iraq war, calling them rapist, murders. i hope by now you can get a little eye opener. just check it out for your selfs. i bow down to none other, just you my lord jesus christ, i will die before i will betrayed my lord and savior jesus christ, a amen.
As for complaining about the celebrations of Christmas and Easter it is my first Amendment right to do so. I just wish all those who want to force me to say Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas create your own celebrations and leave mine alone. I will respect Hannukah, Kwanza and the winter solstice just leave me alone.
Holy %$@& now I truely know the meaning of the saying:
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out --
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out --
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out --
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me -- and there was no one left to speak for me.
Wow robert now calling people out who do not believe the same as you taken right out of the nazi playbook. I wouldn't be surprised if you find my name and address and some thugs to teach me a lesson, seriously some scarey stuff.
Robert, as Anana pointed out, this isn't about the fear of Muslims taking over, it's the fact that Christians are losing their superiority, exactly the same as Americans bitching about the non-white, minority faith immigrants and this is what happened in Germany in the 20's and in the 30's. It's too bad it took such an event of history for us to learn a lesson. It's too bad there are people who are determined to repeat it. I love it when religious right organizations creates such controversies because it wakes the rest of us up to their delusions and prejudices.
Good for Lowes ill buy from Lowes
So does that mean I will have to stop shopping at my locally owned Muslim store?
Yes-Why support them in our country. This is why we have no jobs. Stop supporting these people. Support the American Company's.
don't worry theres many more stores that sell towels
what american company"s that still make it american? mostly imported and called american! we need a list of american company's that are pure american made, with nothing imported! let's see what we can buy now!
my bad
Well you can take target off the list. It isn't american owned (french) and doesn't support american veterans (will not allow solicitation by veteran groups). But thank the Lord they took that anorexic speed freak from the black friday ads off the air.
lonereb Well you can take target off the list. It isn't american owned (french) and doesn't support american veterans (will not allow solicitation by veteran groups). But thank the Lord they took that anorexic speed freak from the black friday ads off the air.
Kinda off subject,but I am a veteran.... Research before you speak.... They in fact support veterans.. They do not allow any solicitation in front of their stores.
No snook it was basically an answer to offbeat.
Why would lowes be influenced by such lunatics? The paranoia of these kooks and poeple posting here are what is wrong with people today. I sure would hate to live in thier minds thats for sure talk about the pits of hell.
Thank you anana-1382213. Some of these posters are way scarier! What happened to "Live and let live". Most of these people on the show were born here in the U.S.
Tell the muslims that . what planet have you been living on?
Haha obviously not the same one you are on thank goodness. i really don't see the difference between the muslim haters and the haters that are muslim. The hypocrocy is soooo obvious.
Maybe congressman Keith Ellison should check what kind of a fringe hate group he belongs to. You know the Muslims haven't been too kind to this country, and the ones that are here sure aren't condemning their fellow muslims for act of violence. Mary Anne 2786091, why don't you ask the muslims why they can't live and let live. or would that be too politically incorrect for you?
Muslims still believe in stoning people and treating women like second class citizens in the majority of the world. Yes, that is controversial and I dont blame any company for not wanting to be involved.
http://www.hraicjk.org/punishment_of_muslim_women.html
Sorry , no company would ever want to be associated with this type of behavior
the way i see it is why are they even coming here? they have problems on there homeland and the freak in government sticks their damn nose in their where it doesn't belong and lets them move right in to this country. don't they realize that the same f-in thing is going to happen right here on our soil with our kids and grand-kids. what the hell is going on with our country, we have a half Muslim running the country is bad enough. don't know how old some of you are but i am old enough to have seen blood shed and sure the hell don't want it where my granddaughter needs to live. we fought for our freedom so why do we need more to worry about, you see the news where some of these muslims were born here now they are with the taliban. we have actually killed one member that was part muslim, i'm sorry if i offended some but what it is it is. their is also alot of white people i wouldn't trust. yes i am white. my father told me along time ago that their is a handful of bad in every race.
I hope one of your muslim peaceful men don't walk up and bitch slap you for being so nice. you're an idiot.
I don't think anyone agrees with stoning woman and no not all muslims believe in that in fact not even the majority. I would understand your point if the show was about muslims who do support and actively stone woman or blow up and behead americans....I have not seen the show so I am guessing probably not the content TLC is going with.
I can state the obvious horrible crimes and inhumane acts of evil christians have done to others. But I am guessing most posting here do not care or can even form a critical thought on the subject.
@ anna
Christianity has evolved. I dont see modern Christians crucifying people. I'm not Christian but at least they dont still engage in the horrific behavior from the middle ages. Islam has not evolved.
And yes , these muslims on the show do not practice those acts but THE majority of Muslims do. Islam is the biggest religion in the world and the US is not the center of the universe. I personally think any religion that treats women differently is savage and should not be allowed in the modern world.
Islam hasn't evolved? Mabye not in the middle east, but the Islamic women CNA's that do my care in Philadelphia have. They work where they choose and respect their husbands out of love, not fear. Their religion seems so different to us, but is similar in many respects. Do some real research and you will find the truth.
Maybe you need to get your head out of that hole in the ground and go see for yourself that life isn't always like what is reported by the media.
Lowes must be run by a bunch of chicken s*it people to bow to the whim of some group.
Bigots beget bigots it seems.
@ CChuck
"Mabye not in the middle east"
Well there you go chuck. And that is the problem.
Also ,bigots do things like stone people or cover up their face if they are of a different gender. They also throw acid in their face and Mutilate the vaginas of their women. They also burn gays at the stake and cut off their genitalia
Its a middle age religion that has Not evolved at all.
I dont blame any company for backing out
You are right. Christendom has evolved into a social religion. Most of its members, while claiming to follow Bible principles, don't even know what the Bible teaches that a Christian is supposed to be. We are to love God "with our whole body, mind, and spirit"; then we are to "love our neighbor as we love ourselves." While I believe a sponsor of a television show should have the right to decide whether to pull its ads; the Bible makes it plain that "whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer; and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him." Each member of the human race is our brother, so we are to love everyone and yet hate the evil things that we, as sinful creatures, inflict on others. If you, however, read the book of Revelation, the book that explains what is to take place in the last days of this wicked system, you will learn that all religion, from Christendom to Pagandom, are to be destroyed to make way for God's heavenly kingdom.
"And yes , these muslims on the show do not practice those acts but THE majority of Muslims do"
I doubt that statement very much. Some christians still do horrific things but at least I understand the difference between some and all. I also understand the importance some people see in creating paranoia to feed to the ignorant for political and power gain. Just ask yourself when was the last time this country did not have a mortal enemy? What exactly do certain organizations and political figures gain from spreading these ideas? How is it any different from muslims spreading fear and hatred of christians/americans? Are you above those tactics and fear mongering?
lol, thanks heaven for Americans who don't buy the quiet infiltraition of Islam. Its like a cancer.
@ anna
Go on the interent and find a christian that performed a horrific middle age act. You Maybe might find one or two Fringe cult memebers that have done that, it at all.
Now go and try to find example of Muslims performing horrific middle age acts.
Hundreds of thousands or images and videos of women being mutilated, stoned, beaten and executed.
and yes the middle east is Much bigger than the US. The US Muslims are a very small minority in the muslim world
More info about the abuse of women in the muslim world
http://www.middle-east-info.org/gateway/womenchildabuse/
" The US Muslims are a very small minority in the muslim world"
Then why are you worried about them?
Female Genital Mutilation (World Health Organization, 1999, p. 149-154): (PDF, 672 KB)
97% of Egyptian women[= 29 million] have undergone Female Genital Mutilation
98% of Djibouti women [= 250,000] have undergone Female Genital Mutilation
98% of Somali women [= 5 million] have undergone Female Genital Mutilation
25% of Mauritanian women [= 750,000] have undergone Female Genital Mutilation
Again not one single person is defending murder abuse or terror. People have every right to be any religion they want. Just because someone is muslim does not mean they are murders or abuse woman, you may want to believe that with all your god fearing heart but it just is not true. I think all religions suck personally this is what the outcome is hatred and fighting like whiny little children over who is better and more right with god. Neither one is better both are just as petty and filled with hate as the other.
" The US Muslims are a very small minority in the muslim world"
Then why are you worried about them?
I'm not worried about them. But If I was a company ,I would not my company's name associated with that behavior
@anna
Again not one single person is defending murder abuse or terror. People have every right to be any religion they want. Just because someone is muslim does not mean they are murders or abuse woman, you may want to believe that with all your god fearing heart but it just is not true. I think all religions suck personally this is what the outcome is hatred and fighting like whiny little children over who is better and more right with god. Neither one is better both are just as petty and filled with hate as the other.
Ok -again , I'm not religious.
Second -the Neo Nazis in the US dont kill jews, that doesnt mean they dont stand for something horrific. There might even be some nice neo Nazis but their association with a belief tends to put people ( and advertisers) off.
Why deosnt TLC have a American Neo-Nazi reality show and point them in a nice light and forget about the whole Kill blacks and jews thing.
If you hate r@pe and murder of innocents then you must hate Islam, because that is what its book of evil teaches.
I don't see why not they support the the florida family association, whats the difference? I am 100% serious on that.
This IS still the USA not just an annex of the arab world and Lowe's has every right to choose who they will advertise with and who they won't. Personally, I am going to drive the 35 miles to my closest Lowe's this weekend and shop just to show support.
Minnie...Thanks...I'm with you! I would never support any advertiser who helps pay for this worthless biased program trying to show muslims in a good light, when they have only one agenda, kill, hate, subjugate.
I have never heard of this show but I would bet that it is not based in NYC.