Government deficits are funded by issuing debt. Issuing government debt competes with the markets for capital. Less capital for business means less money available for expansion, development of goods and services, which in turn strengthens the economy and creates jobs. Econ. 101.

Econ 101 also talks about supply and demand. The money supply is not being dolled out but the demand is high. Tax cuts have historically never worked with less than a 1:1 ratio where unemployment benefits have a 1:1.38 effect. Lend money, make products in this country. Tax imports, government lending to small business (less than 150 employees/less than $15mm sales), tax exemption on profits to those same small business and treat all personal taxable income at the same rate. Make it pay to invest in business, not off shore investments.

It won't help the economy. But the republicans want the tax cut that George Bush gave to the very rich to become permanent. We need out of the bad trade agreements that Bush put us in. Now the republicas want more free trade agreements, so more American jobs will be lost. A vote for a republican or tea party member is voting against American workers and for the rich bankers, wall street, oil companies and insurance companies.

Wow really, why don't you look at the mess that big Gov has caused in Britain. New concept employ more people in the gov and win yourself more votes in the next election, and next etc. I mean really how many gov buildings have you been to that half a dozen or more "employees" are just sitting on their BUMs not doing anything, and this is generating true revenue how? I mean really your a gov employee, you pay taxes which go were, wow new concept to pay you, so again how did this generate real revenue comming into the government coffers how?

whgwv: The problem is not expansion; businesses are sitting on money. There is no demand, because the middle class is being strangled by republican policies. We need a tax cut for the middle class; the rich are doing fine.

Iam woman: Don't forget about Nafta, which was, I believe from Clinton. Who wasn't really a liberal. And while I'm on that topic, Obama isn't really a liberal either. You can't give away billions in business to the health insurance company/fraudsters and still be a liberal.

Apparently some folks have a false idea about the who the wealthy are. Lets see who contributed more this past election. Goldman Sachs contributed more for Obama's campaign as well as BP Oil than for McCain's campaign. The list is quite long. Do your research before posting talking points that have no merit.

In 1938 just as FDR had nealy ended Hoover's Great Depression, he knuckled under to pressure from the Know-Nothings on the other side of the aisle and the recovery flat-lined and fell backwards, extending the Depression for another two years.

Today's Know Nothings are advocating the same idiotic nonsense they were pushing back in 1938.

@Jocojr, way to go for the FUD. All politicians have "blood on their hands" when it comes to political donations

You can slice them all different ways to mislead. For example, Obama may have been the largest single recipient in 2008, but the majority of BP's money went to Republicans.

Stop the crap and look at policy.

I think I've finally figured out whats wrong with liberal democrats...

Paint chips, drug abuse, and of late... the kool-aid. Where do you folks get those rose-colored glasses by the way? Wal-mart?

Start giving the American people money like they hand out freely billions to foreign countries every year. Invest in your own country for a change.

As for government listening to the people or care what the people think. Did Odumbo listen to the people over the Health Care Plan? Hell No!

Give the people on SS, SSDI and SSI 1200 to 1800 to live on. Everything goes up in price except these people's checks, yet our government takes billions every year and hand over to foreign countries.

Chunky monkey, HELL YES President Obama listened to the people on health care. I am just one. Health Care was one of the main problems in his platform when he ran for office. Everyone with lousy health care or no health care voted for him. We put him in office! People being turned AWAY because of preexisting conditions were dying quickly like the repukelicans wanted! And now we have a chance to live. So you are only speaking for yourself or people who don't need health care.

And why, simply because you can? What do you have against people having proper health care? What do you have against people who don't need to worry about preexisting conditions if they get sick? Get a life and try to walk a mile in our shoes. Ohhh... You can't, you would DIE QUICKLY!

It's not just ... pre-existing conditions. Its the whole "take-it- or-live-it" attitude of the present health business. They, in many ways dictate who is hired; even in private companies and small businesses.

I personally know several people who were not hired due to advanced age - seems the business model of the Health care provider had determined that a worker over 60 was too much of a risk for the premiums they were getting from a particular 10 person business. If the 60 year old was hired, every ones premiums, co-pays would increase - substantially (40%)! so, even though this individual was the best man for the job... the insurance provider got in the final word.

That was not an isolated case either.

And that is EXACTLY why not only do/did we need healthcare reform, we truly did need the "public option". I for the life of me still can't believe we can't buy into medicare regardless of age. Sign me up for that government run healthcare!!!

The shameless insurance companies are the ones responsible for the runaway costs and the runaway costs are the largest driver of our unsustainable debt path...hmmm I'm detecting a pattern here...

There are so many good alternatives out there that would reverse the direction of the economy, the debt, the deficit, you name it...but the politics of doing what's right for the 280million people NOT making a million dollars or more(I may have lowballed that number) is NEVER going to fly since it takes the uber-wealthy to fund a national campaign platform...is it any wonder why the agenda that caters to the rich is consistently promoted and merely nibbled around the edge whenever the howling for "reform" gets too loud?

Isn't that exactly how FDR turned a recession into a decade-long depression? I'm surprised you're not pushing for increased tariffs as well.

David Meyer, the following is the Obama Administration Strategy. Can you honestly tell me this is working:

OBAMA ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS, PLEASE SEE MEMO BELOW:

Instructions for all Obama Administration officials. In case you missed the memo's over the past year, please see the following phrases you are to use when defending our administration's policies. You will see the strategy we are trying to implement following each phrase in parenthesis:

• "We saved or created 3.5 million jobs" (Strategy: Make unsubstantiated claims. We may not be able to back up the numbers with accurate data, but they can't prove us wrong either.)
• "Things could be much worse" (Strategy: The old "we see the glass half full, not half empty" idea has worked for years. Might as well try it here.)
• "It was the Bush Administration that is causing all of these problems" (Strategy: Any and all problems that occur during our administrations term, place blame on the previous administration.)
• "People are not happy because Americans just aren't educated enough, we need to re-educate them on what the bill says." (Strategy: While hiding the unpopular parts of bills until we can pass them, when Americans start to realize how bad they are going to hate what we have done, we need to make it appear as though they just don't understand)
• "Wait until after we sign the bill, then we can do a better job of explaining what's in the bill" (Strategy: Since only one or two people in our administration has actually read the bill and nobody really understands all of it, we really have no idea what is in it. So we literally need to wait until after it is signed so we can all find out ourselves. However, it was written by friends of the President including former members of the SDS along with Union Leaders, so we are confident it will be good.)
• "That was Bush's fault too" (Strategy: If all else fails, continue to blame the previous administration. The American people disliked Bush and this will always be there as an excuse for anything that goes wrong while we are in power.)
• "We are headed in the right direction despite the economy getting worse" (Strategy: All you have to do is make people believe that life is good.....even when it's not)
• "We are ready to take action if the economy falters with more stimulus cash" (Strategy: Those on our side of the isle love money being thrown around, if our ratings start to dip, we will just throw money at the problem. That will shut them up for a little while.)
• "We have to spend our way out of this recession" (Strategy: Americans will believe anything when it is coming from a man in a powerful office. So lies will help keep critics at bay for a little while)
• "Angry people waving their tea bags around" (Strategy: Make them look crazy, discredit them any way possible, and make fun of them if necessary. If this fails, look at the next phrase down, this is likely to help.)
• "They are racist" (Strategy: Again, if all else fails, this is another thing we can say to get them off topic. Attack the individual, not the message. If we can get them sidetracked, we will have to put less effort into defending our policies)
• "The Republicans are just the party of NO, they won't let us help the American people" (Strategy: When we don't have any ideas to make things better, come up with any bill whether it is good for the American people or not and just try to pass it. When the GOP says NO, blame them for not letting us get anything done.)
• "The stimulus has been a huge success" (Strategy: Back to step one, unsubstantiated claims. Make people believe we have helped other people around the country, just because nobody they know has been helped does not mean the stimulus did not help someone in another part of the country.)
• "Republicans just want old people to die and they don't care about children getting healthcare" (Strategy: Whenever republicans oppose our healthcare overhaul, tell the American people that the Republicans don't care about our senior citizens or about our children. Make them defend these talking points rather than the real flaws in our bill)
• "It depends on what poll you look at" (Strategy: When our poll numbers get so bad that even our liberal media outlets can't put a positive spin on things, argue that different polls might say something different.)
• "We are just trying to clean up the mess that the previous administration left us" (Strategy: When our policies fail and we can't solve the problems and in some cases when we make things worse, remind Americans that we are just trying to clean the mess. It was not our fault in the first place and we should not have to take responsibility for our attempts to clean it up, if our policies fail then we need to blame everything on Bush.)
• "Really? Are you serious?! Are you serious?!" (Strategy: When asked about whether we are trying to abide by The Constitution of the United States, DO NOT ANSWER THE QUESTION. Simply make it appear as though they are crazy for even asking the question. As we all know, our policies are not always within the bounds of The Constitution. So, we want to keep this out of the public conversation all together.)

FINALLY, one final reminder. When all else fails, BLAME BUSH. Thank you.

*Not a real Memo, but with the same arguement being used over and over and over again by different officials within this administration, I would not be surprised if they looked similar to this one.

Typical Alinsky strategy.

You people need to understand less government is the answer not more!!!!!!!!!!! what is the matter with you? People need to start thinking for themselves and not follow what parties are saying!

Isn't that exactly how FDR turned a recession into a decade-long depression?

Isn't that a total myth and a bunch of nonsense?

Yeah, it is.

"We saved or created 3.5 million jobs" (Strategy: Make unsubstantiated claims. We may not be able to back up the numbers with accurate data, but they can't prove us wrong either.)

That data is backed by reputable economists and the CBO if I am not mistaken. But, keep making unsubstantiated claims as the hilarious disconnect of the GOP with voters continues to drag them down in the polls. They were up by 10 for just a very brief moment, but that's over now. With tax cuts for the rich (opposed by 69% of the American Public) and racism front and center as the only two visible planks in their party platform, the GOP has nothing to offer voters.

NOTHING.

You people need to understand less government is the answer not more!!!!!!!!!!!

We tried "less government." We got Katrina.

A failed ideology is not a strategy, or a policy. It's just tired and worn out.

Less government means less Democracy. We've already seen what happens when we let spoiled rich BRATS run our country. They do nothing but stroke themselves and disgust the rest of us.

max....

You have a most interesting viewpoint, accuracy notwithstanding.

Check out Paul Ryan's plan.

I don't believe that all good comes from government. If that were the case, the Soviet Union would not only be intact, but dominant.

Our country was founded on individual liberty. The Bill of Rights limited government's ability to affect individual liberty. A fact we seem to have forgoten.

The greater the government, the less liberty we have.

The non-partisan Congressional Budget Office’s report (http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/117xx/doc11706/08-24-ARRA.pdf) on the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act: last quarter, the stimulus boosted the GDP by between 1.7 percent and 4.5 percent, adding at least $200 billion in economic activity. It increased employment by between 1.4 million and 3.3 million jobs. If the report itself is a bit confusing, look at a summary from Reuters at http://www.reuters.com/assets/print?aid=USTRE67N55X20100824

1.4 to 3.3 million jobs is NOT “few if any jobs”.

All members of congress use the CBO, both conservative and liberal. I would trust the CBO much more than any report from the biased/partisan Cato Institute or Heritage Foundation.

I don't believe that all good comes from government. If that were the case, the Soviet Union would not only be intact, but dominant.

The Soviet Union was not a democracy. We are. Provided we are INFORMED, we have the power to make INFORMED decisions about issues that affect us. Nice try but that is not an analogy, it's a bucket of fail.

We are one of the most poorly-informed Democracies on the planet these days. And that is why a huge segment of Americans continue to vote against their own best interests, egged into doing so by demagoguery and bigotry which blinds them to the facts and the true issues of the day.

maximillio;

why a huge segment of Americans continue to vote against their own best interests,egged into doing so by demagoguery and bigotry which blinds them to the facts and the true issues of the day.

how can you argue with this statement after looking at most of these posts. It is one thing to say a person lacks an education, but what is there to be said of the lack of common sense?

i find most of these comment to be noise that takes up allot of space and time to read through. i have resorted to designing sound bite messages that are no more than a sentence or two, and posting copiously throughout the article. i hope if it is seen often enough, it will get clogged in some of these poor individuals minds, like a tune one cant stop humming all day after hearing it on the morning radio show. everyone!!!.......start humming.........

slam the freaking door on outsourcing jobs to slave labor economies!!!!

The ol' FDR extended the recession gambit... ain't it wonderful to re-write history to reflect current mythology.

Next thing we'll hear from the republicans is that the GI bill, ( paid for education, home loans, etc) had nothing to do with the rise of the United States while the rest of the allies suffered after WWII. That when it was extended after Korea, vietnam and today - its not a form of public assistance?

One thing we do not want is millions of unemployed youngmen, who know how to use weapons... running around without hope.

Exactly! 98% of the tax breaks went to the top 4% in this country. Business never leads, it will only follow where money can be made. They don't invest without the PROMISE of vast returns, they don't have the guts or know-how to lead.

Rick,

I'm not sure business wants to lead. They want to earn money. Now, if the same could be said about our politicians. Wait, it can. Most of our politicians know nothing about leadership (including the chosen one, who authored more books than he did legislation as a senateor). They do know how to increase their personal wealth while in office, or shortly thereafter. Go figure....

Funny how many of you don't know the Bush cuts were for all tax brackets. All of them are going to expire.

How do Liberals walk around all day with their heads jammed so far up their collective backsides and not bump into things all day.

Yo, Rick: "98% of the tax breaks went to the top 4% in this country" DUH, maybe because 98% of ALL taxes paid in this country of ours are paid by the top 4% of the people. It is only the LIBERAL that wants to "level the playing field" with other peoples money.

And Janet: You do realize that the Small Business Administration labels you a small business until your company employs more than 500 employees or earns in excess of $7 million a year. Pretty FAR CRY from the $250,000 small business crushing policy of your saviour-in-chief.

I'm sorry! but where do you say the repubs are all about the rich and not middle class. Proud to say I am a republican and I am NOT anywhere near rich... Republicans are not ALL rich people, I would say most RICH people are liberals at least that is what I have encountered. But this is just one female republican persons opinion...

So Cathy, you're an anti-abortion advocate. So what.

Everyone who paid taxes got a tax cut. It is impossible to reduce a zero tax liability. And those tax cuts he says he is giving - he isn't. He is simply going to extend yet another Bush policy. And you all thought Bush was the devil. Obama has adopted many of Bush's strategies (Patriot Act, war ramp up, honoring Bush timeline for Iraq, hoping to extend tax cuts, etc.)

Roy,
What part of the BUSH TAX CUTS that were NOT PAID FOR, do you not understand????

Fine, let's quit spending money we don't have. That means all the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan have to come home. Now. So get out of the way, GOP.

Interesting liberal point, it's all about the troops. The wars account for roughly 20% or the budget. I wonder where the other 80% (approximately) goes. ENTITLEMENTS. Perhaps, some of those should be reduced....

We spend more on illegals in this country than the cost of wars............sheesh. I wish people would do some research instead of listening to talking heads who spout rhetoric.

Jack-1590230;

We don't have free trade that is our real problem..Why don't the politictians on both sides deal with that..

i agree!

jack, you will notice that this opinion is rare amongst all the post in this article. 99% of all other solutions given have been tried and failed, which probably indicates that trade is the root of all our economic problems...slam the freaking door now!!!!!

Where was your credit card and back card when it came to the rush to war that created all this debt in the first place! Probably the same place your kids were, safe, tucked away where they wouldn't be harmed while someone else had to send their kids off to YOUR wars and pay YOUR bills for you.

Sorry rick I have family in both wars. My cousin is sitting on top of a mountain in gods no where afghan land. My bills are paid for along with my taxes by me and an education.

Right on David. Pretty simple concept, but it takes a bit of self control and a dash of smarts to pull that off - sadly something few of us seem to have these days. Where's guys like Dave Ramsey to vote in 2010? Moderate in thought, doesn't preach damnation or seem to just piss people off like many Repubs and doesn't advocating spending what he doesn't have like many Dems. If congress had more of those level headed people controlling our purse strings, balanced budgets would be the norm in both up and down years. As it should be. We'd save 10% for rainy day fund and give 10% to other countries for aid and humanitarian efforts to boot. 10% of our GDP? Imagine the difference that would make on a global scale. Sadly, I'll be shouted down as a clown for even typing such thoughts but oh well...

I have to say. Far left want us poor. They want us to be broke so they can turn the US into a controlled wellfare state. Thats when they will have compete control.

I hate the far left and far right. We need a middle. And that seems to be gone. Only the Independents can change america....

David,

That makes too much sense now doesn't it. Honestly, it has become more about redistribution of wealth than anything else.

Andrew,

When was the last time a poor person hired anyone?

you are wrong .....its all about trade and your caught in smoke screen political bull.

Everyone who paid taxes enjoyed tax cuts under Bush. Obama and his followers are lyingif they are spouting otherwise.

GoUSA,
The Bush tax cuts MAINLY benefitted the top 1%. Obama is extending the cuts to those making >$200k.

What don't you understand about those tax cuts not being paid for or not helping to stimulate the economy?

removing tax cuts on the so-called wealthy will create more short-term unemployment. rich people own companies and hire individuals & if you remove tax cuts, they'll either increase the price of their products / services OR cut positions to keep profitable. our government seems to think businesses (or these so-called rich people) will just pay the additional tax and there's no impact to the rest of the job market ---- if you remove $50K of a tax break to a firm, they'll likely just remove a $50K position to offset the tax (it's not personal -- just business). Remember, business owners didn't create their firms to see how many jobs they can create.

you are wrong .....its all about trade and your caught in smoke screen political bull.

Nite Owlet:

You are wrong. Every single person who pays taxes got a tax cut. Sure, a person who makes a million dollars will realize a larger cut when the same percentage is applied to her as it is to the guy who only makes $50,000. That's simple math. X% of a lot is more than X% of a little.

Regarding your comment about my not understanding that the tax cuts weren't paid for: There is nothing in my comment about that. I was simply pointing out that those who tout that the cuts were ONLY for the wealthy are lying.

Murphy you are quite right. All of the comments I've seen here continue to either spout bad stats or blame Obama for everything that is wrong with our economy today.

John Boehner is but one example of the Republican compass to trample all over anything the Obama administration proposes.

We had 8 years of the Republicans squirrelling all of the tax breaks and profits for the big earners of the American population. It's time America wakes up and learns more about how we got here, and what can be done to make a change.

The fat cats and corporations kept the money and sent the jobs overseas

we are competing against slave labor.......slam the freaking door now!!!!

any other discussion is secondary.

I think some import taxs are in order we can use the revenue to fund the extended unemployment benifits that will be needed for a long time to come.All those outsourcing companies have raked in enough profits while they use slave labor and saved a bundle on ruining other developing countries environment

excellent observation dave, your opinion is rare because it is correct!!!! everything else has been tried and failed.......this is the solution.

post it everywhere!!!! chant it in the streets until it irritates everyone as much as all of these post (except this one) are irritaingly nothing but nonsense.

Facts seem to fly past certain people! If infrastructure spending was important, why didn't Obama spend some of the over $800 billion on it more then giving to BIG BANKS???

Why didn't he push for it in the past 19 months??

We are all being led by people who support their party rather then this Country! No Democrat in Congress supported any legislation to curb our Housing fiascoes, while in complete control of Bush's last two years in office!

beyond:
The $800B TARP fund was created by Bush legislation, not all of it sent to banks, but the bulk has been repaid. Major banks going under would have helped, WHOM?

Not back on the planet, huh nite!~

That Was ALL OBAMA $800B! ALL HIS!!! READ

He IN FACT gave to backs to Shore them up! Check that Economic Term out, Nite!

Without Business being able to borrowing when they are losing money, they cant grow or produce; therefore, layoffs and no hires!

we are competing against slave labor.......slam the freaking door now!!!!

any other discussion is secondary.

RSD both parties look to the rich! GE and UNIONs (dont think Unions are rich!?)paid for Obama!

Tax cuts to the already wealthy has NOT helped our economy, nor will it if it continues. It was NOT PAID for and is a big part of our national debt.

Why are you all continuing with the insanity of thinking otherwise. Didn't even Alan Greenspan say this very same thing!!

One ounce of proof Nite!~ PAID FOR??? that is money the government never had; therefore, that paid nothing!

No he didn't and who cares Alan Greenspan watched all this happen and said nothing!

we are competing against slave labor.......slam the freaking door now!!!!

any other discussion is secondary.

There is NOTHING fair about a flat tax.

we are competing against slave labor.......slam the freaking door now!!!!

any other discussion is secondary.

Shamwow, please cease swinging on Obama's knuts. this is about a wave of rich people against us poor people. Obama is just one man. What Boner's offering is garbage. I recall Obama talking about the repubs wanting to keep the same ol program going that pratically destroyed this country. this president is standing up to the rich. Many of us are just to shallow minded to see that. We are so caught up in criticizing the president that the repubs could steal the entire country as long as they say "Obama's from Africa, he's a Muslim, he associates with terrorist" etc. Get a clue ya'll. the man hasn't been in the office two years and lots would rather follow people who have been there all along and done nothing to avert the recession. When a man comes along who does do SOMETHING they try to convince people he's the anti-christ.

If I didn't vote for Obama before, you can bet I will hurry to vote for him this time.

Keith are you serious?? Both parties swing for different Rich people!

I don't mind a debate about President Obama who has had the courage to tackle some huge problems at great political expense. But when you here the impeach word, or socialist or Marxist this all code for we hate that this brilliant Black man is the most powerful man in the world and if he is successful then there will be an end to the White dominated good-o boy system. So to all the liberals, progressives and independents do not be fooled by sophisticated racism. He is a a brilliant President blessed with a weak party that hates winning. Republicans circled the wagons when it came to the worst President and biggest war criminal in recent history (Bush/Cheney) but when we get a good President then liberal politicians show how yellow belly they are. Voters don't be fooled tell all your neighbors and friends to get out and vote Democratic in this November the work is not done.

Truth did you read what our founders intended?? They never wanted A Single Person to be ALL POWERFUL!! Thats what they ran from in England!

Beyonddisgust -

That's why Dennis Kucinich et al drafted the 13 articles of impeachment for Bush. You can thank Bush for giving government the power to read your e-mails and look at your bank account. Isn't that all TOO POWERFUL?

we are competing against slave labor.......slam the freaking door now!!!!

any other discussion is secondary.

BEYONDDISGUST

You are correct. both parties swing towards the the rich differently. That's to be expected. We should all know by now what politics and being a politician entails. the difference between the Dems and the repubs, is that the Dems will share the spoils with the "little" guy, whereas the repubs seem only to be interested in sharing with eachother. the rich support, protect and coverup for the rich. At least the Dems try to help more people.

the economy did well up untill late 2006- early 2007 even with 9-11. wounder what happend in 2006 to change that?

yes i know Bush was in charge but during his term 2000-2006 unemployment was low and eveyone i know had a job and money. in 2007 eveything went down the tubes. so can any one tell me what big event happend around 2007 that changed everything?

we are competing against slave labor.......slam the freaking door now!!!!

any other discussion is secondary.

"What happens if you get a criminally stupid and power hungry person elected to govern?"

Ever hear of George Bush?

Chris like facts?? While Bush was in office we had the highest Prosperity of any nation (except Solomons Isreal) at any time in history!

Both are wrong, because our republic still has 3 distinct branches. Problem is that they are all being run by distinct parties!

You have an odd notion of facts. I recall the constant complaint of people being forced to train their replacements in India and then being fired. Ever call customer support for a computer? The prosperity you're talking about is corporate prosperity, not individual.

As far as the 3 distinct branches go, for 2000 to 2008, they all marched in lock-step. Witness what's left of our supreme court.

Besides, it's not a republic, it's a banana republic, thanks to the banana republicans.

WHile thats what really led to our economic downfall, Chris!?

Exactly. Republicans, when they were in power, systematically moved a majority of manufacturing jobs out of America, giving them tax breaks so they could import their goods as though they were still in the country. That way they could hire cheap labor for a couple of dollars an hour and no benefits rather than a decent wage like they'd have to in this country. The savings to the corporation is pure profit.

You may not know this, but Levi's jeans, the most iconic symbol of America, are made in China; Nabisco fig newtons are made in Mexico; and Hershey just fired 400 workers so they could move their Peppermint Patty factory to Mexico. Where should their former workers work now? Or are they now hobos and bums, as John Boehner calls them.

Chris wont deny that happened, but none of that supports the economic mess that we are in today!

I know that they left our country completly (LEVI) in 1994! Guess who was president then!

Chris they all are whores to somebody!

Nabisco left after the signing of NAFTA, Guess who then??

These tax breaks doubled the Earned INcome Tax Credit (GOT KIDS!!!???) and reduced the Net Tax for EVERYBODY! ALso the last two years of Bush's office gave all workers approx $200 per year in federal check!

BASELESS ACCUSATIONS are just that, baseless accusations.

If most of you had A CLUE to a criminal fact we are missing about President Obama, I would love to hear it.

A duly elected President gets shafted by misinformation and ennuendo. Why????

Nite when has your Cool Aid drinking self been right about anything?

we are competing against slave labor.......slam the freaking door now!!!!

any other discussion is secondary.

Can't answer that one Mr. Palmer, have never voted a criminally stupid person in office. If you are referring to Obama, if healthcare is stupid or if bringing many home from a war is criminal or somehow reflects "power hunger" then count me among those who are law breakers, if yo will.

Count me in on that too!!! Mr Palmer!

I'll take a piece of that "stupidity" too!