Hybrid!
Also, I buy battery stocks CSGH! It's time to have another battery bubble!
I'm number 412 on the waiting list for an Aptera, which goes 120 miles on about one dollar's worth of electricity. I believe Detroit can do so much better than what they are putting out.
I hope the results of the survey truly reflect the general opinion of the American public given the current gas prices. Sometimes I think the only way is to legislate the gas hogs out of the market or artificially drive up the fuel cost to $6 per gallon like they do in Europe.
I'll buy another one like I have now. A $500 beater that runs great, is totally dependable, cheap to insure at $14.00/mo, and gets 35 MPG. Screw going into debt for one of those new pieces of crap. I haven't paid over $500 for a vehicle since 1982 and I'm perfectly happy with that. Every one I've owned has given me at least 100,000 miles of cheap, reliable service. The only new car I've ever had was a total piece of junk from the get-go. Never again!
This pholosophy allows me to have no debt, a decent savings account and to buy pretty much whatever I want, when I want, and to pay cash for it. Putting oneself into debt for $40,000 just to drive around in a new vehicle that will be essentially worthless by the time it's paid off is idiotic, in my opinion.
I am with you. Besides, I am very concerned w/ coal fired electric cars destroying the air we breathe. Half of our electricity comes from coal. Also, much of our peaking power comes from oil or gas. If everybody plugs their car in at 5 PM, that will cause the electric company to put its dirty peaking units on line. If 80% of our electricity was nuclear, we would be OK w/ electric cars. For today, electric cars are silly dream.
WRONG!!!!!
Even if all the power electric cars used came from coal, you still have less CO2 impact than gasoline. Plus, coal is all American, we don't import it. Can't say that about gas/oil. PLUS, you can generate your own, can't say that about gas/oil.
Electric have timers to delay charge until off peak (Tesla has it now, the RAV4 EV had it too). So the electric cars can take advantage of off-peak power (because you can't shut off a coal fired plant, you are using electricity that would actually be dumped).
You are what's silly.
I own 2 electric vehicles, and Ford Ranger EV, and a converted Ford Festiva. 90% of my driving never uses gas. I have the Ford Escape Hybrid when I need to go farther (less than once a week). I fill up less than once a month, and my utility bill is about $15 a month higher since I went electric.
I'm headed for anything as electric as I can get it from now on. I'm done with car companies who coddle the Oil companies and thumb their noses at public demand to free us from their evil grip. The Oil Co's are doing nothing but holding the prices to try to kill these new models but I honestly don't believe it's going to work this time. And I couldn't care less if gas was 5 cents a gallon. I'm done with the fuel combustion engine and the lies and manipulation from both the Detroit 3 and Exxon Mobil to keep me addicted to it.
After 3 years with this Prius I can say with all confidence ... this is the current of the future.
My job requires a lot of driving each day. I need a vehicle that is safe/reliable in all kinds of weather conditions, including lots of snow. A vehicle with AWD or 4x4 fit that bill. I think a lot of people that live in the northern states where snow is an issue feel the way I do.
I wish to buy a Scion XD. I would like to have one with 20horsepower less than the current model. This will get me 35 to 40+ gallons per mile . the car will haul 4 passengers and it will travel a solid 65 miles per hour.
MY previous car was a Chevrolet Geo Spectrum. It carried four people comfortably and got 37 average mpg and did 44 mpg on the highway. It had an 8.3 gallon gas tank.
A car should have sufficient space to carry what you want to carry in reasonable comfort and cost the minimum cost per unit mile for the maximum number of miles that it can do this reliably.
This is the only purpose for a car.
I cant afford the insurance so therefore I buy beaters and pay the no fault instead.
I want the best of all worlds: An all-wheel drive, turbodiesel-electric hybrid with built-in digital music ports, built-in GPS, and a choice of body styles (including the roomy 5-door hatchback style which Americans seem to look down upon in favor of sedan or SUV). Honda's failure to produce hatchbacks around 1999 and the high cost of hybrids at the time is what compelled me to look at the VW turbodiesel Golf, and once you go turbodiesel, you never go back. Why no car manufacturer - not even VW - has combined turbodiesel with electric is beyond me. I wish I could mix Subaru's AWD, Honda's transmission and hybrid electric technology, and VW's turbodiesel engine in some kind of Frankenstein dream car.
We need to get into the market FAST! Stop allowing the arab community to hold us hostage with their oil. Americans have had it pretty good over the years, but it is time to tighten the belt and show the world that we are STILL leaders. The only way to bring the economy into the running is to have high mpg cars that are efficient in all ways. My goodness Iran is smart enough to do it. They hardly use any oil at all, but they are making TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS because Americans are not being logical. WE are supporting terrorism in the world from the money being spent on oil. Come on, stop and think now.......who is benefiting from the money from oil imports? It is NOT US!
I wish that the government would push more for solar power also and make it affordable for people to put it in their homes. I WOULD. I would rather have solar power to run my house than electric from the "company". Their is plenty of solar power that is untapped and unused. WHY? Why can't our government bring about GREEN for the people to enjoy. Of course, that would probably put the rich electric companies out of business. Boo Hoo!
The government will never "push" (ie tas incentives) for anything that places their revenue steam (taxes on coal, oil and gas). Forget it.
And where does this electricity come from? Let's not come up with another half baked idea...
We want to kill the coal fired power plants because they pollute. Hydroelectric harms the fish. We use compact fluorescent bulbs, which bring Mercury into the home. We want to save the Ozone with Hydrogen? Hydrogen leaks through steel. When you fillup, you can easily blow up.
Hydrogen spontaneously combines with Ozone in the presence of Ultraviolet light (like upper atmosphere). I cannot imagine an easier way to kill the Ozone layer. If you try this combination experiment at home, be prepared for a violent reaction. Not a detonation, but you can be killed.
So... don't believe the salesmen. Become an engineer and find the facts about the "new" technologies.
What a bunch of bull.
Have stocks in oil companies, or something?
Mahindra, the tractor manufaturer from India is planning a hybrid/diesel small pick-up for 2010 to be sold in the US. Sounds fascinating, and just what I would need
Why is it, that none of the articles on electric cars this week has mentioned Phoenix Motors? They already have an SUV and 4-door truck that go 100 miles on a charge.
I want to hear from the automotive enthusiast--is there anyone out there who enjoys driving? Because you won't enjoy driving most of these electrics and hybrids, unless you enjoy driving slowly and wagging your finger at the earth-destroying V6 family sedan in the next lane. I'm pretty sure you could get the same level of driving involvement from a washing machine. NOTE-I meant to post this on its own, not as a reply--sorry.
Perhaps b/c only 100 people could afford them. Very few of the people on this board talking about going electric will be buying a Tesla or anything comparable.
I live in Canada. My next car has to have some form of combustion to generate heat for the car in winter. An all electric car would probably work fine in summer but in winter it would get a couple of kilometers per charge using some form of heater. I'm sure many North Eastern states have similar problems with all-electric cars.
This would not be an issue for an electric vehicle, many cars today use all electric compressors for heat & AC and the energy required is no where near what is needed to run the car. As an example the Lexus RX400h has all electric heat, I assume it works fine in your area? In addition electric cars would not need to be plugged in to keep the engine warm.
Unfortunately, the electric cars will need to be plugged in for 2 reasons, to charge, and to keep the batteries warm. Batteries lose efficiency the colder they get. Lithium are better, but they do have a limit as well. But as long as you are plugged in, why not have a preheat timer to warm up the car interior?
I dont care about mpg or distance per charge, I am going to drive what I like and if it only gets 8 mpg so be it. I dont care . I drive trucks and suv's so I have the towing hauling capacity, mpg is not an issue power and capacity are number one. I will never buy an electric or hybrid they would be usless to me and my family.
Way to go Mike, eat the earth right. Greed is good, He who dies with the most toys wins. Hows the deer hunting going this season, sorry about the election maybe next time.
Careful what you wish for, if everyone had this attitude and the economy ever recovers you could easily see gas over $10/gallon. Of course I bet then you would be crying about how the oil companies are ripping us off or something. Grow up and think about the future of our world, the way you live your life today is not sustainable.
Unless you are a contractor or farmer, you don't really need the towing and hauling capability. Find a place to store your toys like ATV and boats near where you use them and get rid of the gas hogs. My brother's subdivision is full of Suburbans and Expeditions that get used for towing a few weekends per year. The rest of the time they could be driving a midsized sedan. I live in Nebraska. We use our trucks. I do some constuction and get by with a small SUV (20+mpg at 70MPH) and a trailer or I borrow a larger truck. People like you who don't give a damn about doing the right thing for our environment and our national security are selfish and greedy and represent the worst in our country.
What are all these "hybrid crazed" idiots thinking about when it comes to safety??? I will NEVER put my beautiful granddaughter in such a small UNSAFE car! I will pay $20 per gallon to drive my SUV or Mini Van with all it's airbags, etc. And even the so called "safety standards" for current cars are not strong enough in my opinion. Maybe when they build separate roads for idiot drivers and big rigs!
I'm waiting for an electric small pickup. It would be cool if someone figured out how to simulate the sound of a V8 exhaust! Like a speaker where the tailpipe would be. The one thing I'll never give up though, is my gas powered Harley......it gets between 45 and 50 MPG anyway, so I don't feel too bad.
Take a look at www.phoenixmotorcars.com , they are not in production yet and the cost might be high but its getting close to your needs. Hopefully cheap gas won't derail these guys because the technology will be amazing in a few years if it can get off the ground. It will fallow a technology ramp similar to the PC!
I'm looking at a Voltswagon Passat. Small but roomy with a diesel engine. I'd love to buy the Ford Focus diesel, but they don't sell it in the United States.
Equivelent road fuel tax for electric powered vehicles could be used to rebuild electric grid and pay costs to convert to clean coal.
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Iwould like it to be electric, AWD, handle like a BMW and be fast